Frank Martin Bitching

I feel this is what got him to us in the first place.

He clearly got into a spat with his AD, and even though he didn't get fired, saw he was hated among them and got out ASAP.

I feel he's starting to do this here. It's not the results it's his attitude about it. He knows waht he got himself into.

We aren't a basketball school.

he needs to go to a school that doesn't have football and where even a 15-16 team, fans showup because they love basketball and only have that.

St Joes just fired their coach.


ETA: do have to admit, he may be kinda smart here.
His buyout is 15.5 Mil I believe, or a little less still a nice chunk. If he does get into it with Tanner so much that he first him, he will get a nice check

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Depaul

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That job may be one of the worst in the country. They haven't been to the tourney in 15+ years and have finished last in their conference almost every year the past decade.

I've got a lot of thoughts on everything in this thread so I'll just list them out as they come.

1) I can understand Frank's frustration about not getting in the NIT if he feels Tanner didn't lobby enough on his behalf.
2) This is particularly true if something similar happened when we missed the NCAA in 2015-2016 - I'm still pissed about that.
3) On the other hand, Frank has no one to blame but himself. Whether injury, players getting in trouble, or just subpar recruiting... it always seems like we have 1-2 solid players but Frank can never get a complete team together. Combine that with inexplicable losses that have kept us out of the NCAA and the NIT and I feel like Frank should own up to more of the burden.
4) If we're going to have the coach and the AD clash, we should've just hired Gregg Marshall. Wasn't Marshall's abrasiveness one of the reasons we went with Horn? Maybe I'm wrong.
5) I understand that DePaul has sucked for a while now, but Oliver Purnell left Clemson for DePaul after 3 straight NCAA tournament berths.

I really think at this point Frank can’t lose.
He acts like this and what happens? He gets fired and has a whole lotta money.
If he doesn’t? He keeps his job and still gets paid a well

Ball in his court

There's the pits and then there's DePaul. Our program at its lowest point has been average at DePaul for the last 2 decades.

"I can understand Frank's frustration about not getting in the NIT if he feels Tanner didn't lobby enough on his behalf.
2) This is particularly true if something similar happened when we missed the NCAA in 2015-2016 - I'm still pissed about that.
3) On the other hand, Frank has no one to blame but himself. Whether injury, players getting in trouble, or just subpar recruiting... it always seems like we have 1-2 solid players but Frank can never get a complete team together. Combine that with inexplicable losses that have kept us out of the NCAA and the NIT and I feel like Frank should own up to more of the burden.
4) If we're going to have the coach and the AD clash, we should've just hired Gregg Marshall. Wasn't Marshall's abrasiveness one of the reasons we went with Horn? Maybe I'm wron"

#1 How much cheerleading could/should Tanner do for a 15-16 team?

#2 You should be pissed at the ooc schedule we played to get that good record. You don't play a bunch of middle school teams and then claim you're deserving of a bid based off of that.

#3 I agree with that paragraph.

#4 We got Horn instead of Marshall due to Fogler not liking Marshall. Fogler has been our " search" team on the last 2 hires.

My issue is Frank is sure throwing blame everywhere except where it should be thrown and that's in his lap.

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doesn't bode well for one's future.

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He'll be paid handsomely at the end of it.

If that happens his future is fine where he will not need a boss.

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There's the pits and then there's DePaul. Our program at its lowest point has been average at DePaul for the last 2 decades.

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DePaul isn’t the worst
There’s actually a thread on the MSB about the toughest CBB programs to win at in the big conferences (i count the BE as a big one)

I was just saying I think he’d be better off at a school like that where basketball is their number one.

Now of course i don’t think they’ll pay him $2.8m. But if he were to get fired from here I think he’d take the paycut of $1m a year especially with the buyout he’ll get

I want a coach to win games. Frank can be a mentor in the boys club and accomplish the same thing.

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G Date Time Type Opponent Conf Tm Opp OT W L Streak Arena
1 Sat, Nov 14, 2015 7:00p REG Norfolk State MEAC W 84 69 1 0 W 1 The Colonial Life Arena
2 Mon, Nov 16, 2015 7:30p REG Oral Roberts Summit W 84 66 2 0 W 2 The Colonial Life Arena
3 Fri, Nov 20, 2015 6:00p REG N DePaul Big East W 76 61 3 0 W 3 Virgin Islands Sport & Fitness Center
4 Sun, Nov 22, 2015 9:00p REG N Hofstra CAA W 94 84 4 0 W 4 Virgin Islands Sport & Fitness Center
5 Mon, Nov 23, 2015 9:00p REG N Tulsa AAC W 83 75 5 0 W 5 Virgin Islands Sport & Fitness Center
6 Fri, Nov 27, 2015 2:00p REG Lipscomb A-Sun W 92 76 6 0 W 6 The Colonial Life Arena
7 Mon, Nov 30, 2015 7:00p REG Western Carolina Southern W 76 53 7 0 W 7 The Colonial Life Arena
8 Sat, Dec 5, 2015 4:00p REG South Florida AAC W 81 63 8 0 W 8 The Colonial Life Arena
9 Tue, Dec 15, 2015 7:00p REG Drexel CAA W 79 54 9 0 W 9 The Colonial Life Arena
10 Fri, Dec 18, 2015 7:00p REG @ Clemson ACC W 65 59 10 0 W 10 Littlejohn Coliseum
11 Tue, Dec 22, 2015 9:00p REG N St. John's (NY) Big East W 75 61 11 0 W 11 Mohegan Sun Arena
12 Wed, Dec 30, 2015 7:00p REG Francis Marion W 78 56 12 0 W 12 The Colonial Life Arena
13 Sat, Jan 2, 2016 6:00p REG Memphis AAC W 86 76 13 0 W 13 The Colonial Life Arena
14 Tue, Jan 5, 2016 7:00p REG @ Auburn SEC W 81 69 14 0 W 14 Auburn Arena
15 Sat, Jan 9, 2016 3:00p REG Vanderbilt SEC W 69 65 15 0 W 15 The Colonial Life Arena
16 Wed, Jan 13, 2016 9:00p REG @ Alabama SEC L 50 73 15 1 L 1 Coleman Coliseum
17 Sat, Jan 16, 2016 1:00p REG Missouri SEC W 81 72 16 1 W 1 The Colonial Life Arena
18 Tue, Jan 19, 2016 7:00p REG @ Mississippi SEC W 77 74 OT 17 1 W 2 The Pavilion at Ole Miss
19 Sat, Jan 23, 2016 12:00p REG @ Tennessee SEC L 69 78 17 2 L 1 Thompson-Boling Arena
20 Tue, Jan 26, 2016 7:00p REG Mississippi State SEC W 84 74 18 2 W 1 The Colonial Life Arena
21 Sat, Jan 30, 2016 6:00p REG Alabama SEC W 78 64 19 2 W 2 The Colonial Life Arena
22 Tue, Feb 2, 2016 7:00p REG @ Georgia SEC L 56 69 19 3 L 1 Stegeman Coliseum
23 Sat, Feb 6, 2016 4:00p REG @ Texas A&M (8) SEC W 81 78 20 3 W 1 Reed Arena
24 Wed, Feb 10, 2016 7:00p REG Louisiana State SEC W 94 83 21 3 W 2 The Colonial Life Arena
25 Sat, Feb 13, 2016 12:00p REG Kentucky (22) SEC L 62 89 21 4 L 1 The Colonial Life Arena
26 Tue, Feb 16, 2016 7:00p REG @ Missouri SEC L 67 72 21 5 L 2 Mizzou Arena
27 Sat, Feb 20, 2016 12:00p REG Florida SEC W 73 69 OT 22 5 W 1 The Colonial Life Arena
28 Wed, Feb 24, 2016 9:00p REG Tennessee SEC W 84 58 23 5 W 2 The Colonial Life Arena
29 Sat, Feb 27, 2016 2:30p REG @ Mississippi State SEC L 58 68 23 6 L 1 Humphrey Coliseum
30 Thu, Mar 3, 2016 7:00p REG Georgia SEC L 72 74 23 7 L 2 The Colonial Life Arena
31 Sat, Mar 5, 2016 5:00p REG @ Arkansas SEC W 76 61 24 7 W 1 Bud Walton Arena
G Date Time Type Opponent Conf Tm Opp OT W L Streak Arena
32 Fri, Mar 11, 2016 9:00p CTOURN N Georgia SEC L 64 65 24 8 L 1
G Date Time Type Opponent Conf Tm Opp OT W L Streak Arena
33 Tue, Mar 15, 2016 7:00p NIT High Point Big South W 88 66 25 8 W 1 The Colonial Life Arena
34 Mon, Mar 21, 2016 9:00p NIT Georgia Tech ACC L 66 83 25 9 L 1 The Colonial Life Arena
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Our first 13 games were against extremely weak opponents that year.
We lost to a horrible Georgia team not once but 3 times.
Went 0-1 in sec tourny losing to sorry Georgia.
Went 11-7 after winning our first 13.
Went 1-1 in the NIT.