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re: 2019 Football Season Thread (4-8, 3-5): Season Over
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:43 am to I Bleed Garnet
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:43 am to I Bleed Garnet
I agree losing to App state is unacceptable but Lonnie's statement is correct. They would be to toughest team on the tators schedule.
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:59 am to I Bleed Garnet
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No
Yes. The taters closest game was vs UNC, which App State also defeated. They have a better record than anyone else on Clemson's schedule.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:14 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Yes. The taters closest game was vs UNC, which App State also defeated. They have a better record than anyone else on Clemson's schedule.
They’re not better than A&M
Who’s only 3 losses are to top 10 teams
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:23 pm to I Bleed Garnet
quote:just actually looked at A&M's season results/stats for the first time this year...
A&M
both USC & TAM - as home teams - gave up a 47 spot to Alabama.
Aggy just got tagged for 30 by ... Mississippi St. (in the words of Steve Spurrier "as we know, they've not been an offensive juggernaut in the SEC")
Auburn's schizophrenic offense put up 28.
newly fired Chad Morris and Arkansas painted the scoreboard vs Aggy in Jerryworld with 27 - a season best for the Hogs in league play and more than ARK scored against Portland St, San Jose St & Western KY.
Aggy rush defense (187 ypg) ranks 11/14 in league games ahead of only Vanderbilt (238 ypg) & Arkansas (265 ypg). Gamecocks (137 ypg) rush defense is 5th best in the SEC in league play.
something else that jumped out - Aggy is last in the SEC in league games allowing over 3 sacks per game. USC is 7th in league play averaging more than 2 sacks per game.
turnover margin in league play is basically a wash with USC +3 and TAM +1.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:05 am to 1801
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:03 pm to I Bleed Garnet
It would be a very Gamecock thing to do to get blown out by Tennessee, lose at home to App. St., and then turn around and beat A&M and Clemson. But no it's not happening.
4-8's comin' baws
4-8's comin' baws
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:04 am to SCgamecock2988
Battle Armor video TA&M.
Never Give Up
This is an interesting one. Justin King doing Justin King things.
Never Give Up
This is an interesting one. Justin King doing Justin King things.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:20 am to Lonnie Utah
It somehow gets me excited for the games every week lol.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:23 pm to Fearless Gamecock
Then you are lucky. I dont even check to see what time we play anymore.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:05 pm to SOSFAN
Hutzler's special teams just cost Carolina 40+ yards after a false start. Gamecocks had to re-punt on a ball that would have been downed at the 7 and instead A*M returned the re-punt to damn near midfield. score 3-0 aggy 1Q
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:10 pm to 1801
all 5 SEC losses by double digits.
4 by 20+...(updated to add loss to MO - congrats Will & Staff :cheers)
-24 to Alabama
-20 to Missouri
-20 to Tennessee
-24 to Texas AM
4 by 20+...(updated to add loss to MO - congrats Will & Staff :cheers)
-24 to Alabama
-20 to Missouri
-20 to Tennessee
-24 to Texas AM
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 7:02 am
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:00 pm to 1801
In Muschamps short career (8 total seasons) as a head coach he’s now had 2 losing regular seasons.
4-8 with Florida in 2013 and now 4-7 about to be 4-8 this year
I know before there have been a lot of comparisons to SOS in regards tot their records at USC through this amount of years etc.
But in SOS’s 26 seasons as a CFB head coach he’s had 2 losing regular seasons, his first and his last.
4-8 with Florida in 2013 and now 4-7 about to be 4-8 this year
I know before there have been a lot of comparisons to SOS in regards tot their records at USC through this amount of years etc.
But in SOS’s 26 seasons as a CFB head coach he’s had 2 losing regular seasons, his first and his last.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:43 am to I Bleed Garnet
Just putting these here so I can find them again.
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:25 am to Lonnie Utah
I had a whole thing typed out and erased it.
Let's just say,
F Clemson.
F Dabo
F their crappy fans.
I hope the clemson bus catches on fire on the way to columbia.
Just watch the main board next week.
Let's just say,
F Clemson.
F Dabo
F their crappy fans.
I hope the clemson bus catches on fire on the way to columbia.
Just watch the main board next week.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 9:26 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:29 am to Lonnie Utah
I just hope it's dead af for the Clemson game. No other way to voice our displeasure than simply just not showing up. Which means $0 on concessions, $0 on God damn everything. And national embarrassment when Clemson fans outnumber us in our own stadium. It's what has to happen at this point.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:54 am to SCgamecock2988
Clempson fans will fill the stadium and it will still be positive cash flow.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:32 pm to SOSFAN
SOS,
I just figured out my thread title for next week, thanks!!!!
The only other thing I can say is stay stay tuned to the rant next week, and I hope I don't get banned.
It's a trap!
I just figured out my thread title for next week, thanks!!!!
The only other thing I can say is stay stay tuned to the rant next week, and I hope I don't get banned.
It's a trap!
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:08 pm to Lonnie Utah
so this just dropped about 7pm outta Florence ... https://www.scnow.com/news/local/caslen-usc-ad-asked-fsu-about-how-it-managed-its/article_2fc87775-6600-58c6-b371-a9a9b8c151a3.html
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Caslen: USC AD asked FSU about how it managed its buyout
BY SCOTT CHANCEY Morning News schancey@florencenews.com 1 hr ago
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University of South Carolina football coach Will Muschamp claps during his team's 24-7 victory over Vanderbilt on Nov. 2 in Columbia.
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FLORENCE – University of South Carolina President Robert Caslen said Monday he has not asked Florida State how it came up with money to fire football coach Willie Taggart earlier this month and pay him a buyout worth a little more than $18 million.
“No, but our athletic director (Ray Tanner) has,” Caslen said during an interview session at the Morning News. “And they’ve got a whole lot more money in their athletic endowment than we do. I know that, for a fact.
"Listen, for the record, (South Carolina football coach Will Muschamp) is my coach, period. And he’ll remain my coach, just for the record. If you look at the athletic director’s statement (Saturday, supporting Muschamp before his team’s 30-6 loss to Texas A&M), that’s the same that I endorse.”
On Friday, Tanner released a statement that read: “Today, I want to make it clear that Will Muschamp is our football coach and will be our coach going forward. Caslen and I are fully supportive of his leadership and his development of student-athletes on and off the field. Coach Muschamp and our staff are dedicated to the success of Gamecock football. They have built a program where our team plays for each other and for our university, and they deserve our support. While we wish the outcome of some of our games would have been different, we are excited about the future of our program.”
Caslen, the university’s president since August, was then asked what Muschamp’s fate would be if Clemson wins by a large margin on Nov. 30 at Williams-Brice Stadium.
“If we’re totally imploding and no one shows up, I’d say we’ll have a discussion,” Caslen said. “But there’s no desire intended to make a change.”
If a Clemson blowout win forces Caslen’s hand, South Carolina would owe Muschamp a buyout. It’s $19.4 million before Dec. 30, but $18.8 million on Dec. 31. Muschamp, since taking over USC in 2016, has compiled a 26-24 record, including a 15-17 record in the Southeastern Conference. He lost eight of his past 12 games against Power Five opponents. He has lost three consecutive games to coach Dabo Swinney’s Tigers. This year the Gamecocks have a 4-7 record, and that includes a home loss to Appalachian State.
Caslen then disputed a Greenville News story last week in which the newspaper reported he said he is fully committed to Muschamp – at least for the final two games of the season.
"Coach Muschamp is my coach. That's the message. He will be my coach through the end of the season," The Greenville News attributed to Caslen. “And then, just like any other coach that's out there, whether it's a soccer coach, whether it's the equestrian coach, whatever, they're going to do an end-of-year assessment, the athletic director does. Then, we'll see what’s up.”
Caslen, on Monday, then gave his version of what happened.
“I did not say that,” Caslen said. “Those were three-minute-apart statements. I said, ‘Coach is my coach.’ Three minutes later, we had a discussion about what happens at the end of every athletic team’s season. A common practice that has gone on forever is that you assess. Frankly, I’m assessing my role: How can I as the president help his program? I have leadership responsibilities, too. Season assessment is important.
“You take THAT statement, and you take the statement, ‘He’s my coach until the end of the season,’ and then they twisted my words, and it ... me off to no end. How clear can I make it? He’s my coach. He’s the university’s coach. And the statement by Ray Tanner last week is the same that I support 100 percent.”
Earlier in the interview, Caslen referred to South Carolina’s 20-17 upset over Georgia, now the nation’s fourth-ranked team.
“That just shows we have the potential to be halfway decent,” Caslen said.
Later, Caslen was asked what is his favorite challenge in front of him, one that looks like he can have an impact that would be important to the state of South Carolina and one that he can impact quickly.
“To beat Clemson,” he answered.
“If the (team that beat Georgia) shows up, we can do it,” Caslen’s wife, Shelly, added.
Caslen then followed that up.
“If Clemson has one of those days, and we have one of our Georgia days, it’s game on, because the talent is there,” Caslen said. “It’s a matter of getting the kids to play together as a team, that’s all. But we’ll figure it out."
Clemson, which has won five consecutive games over the Gamecocks after South Carolina won the previous five, is a hurdle Caslen wants his program to get over soon.
“Everybody wants to be part of a winning team,” said Caslen, a former Army football center and retired Lieutenant General in the U.S. Army and former West Point superintendent. “No one wants to be part of a team that’s not winning. That’s just the way America is. That’s just American culture, right? We all want to be around a winner.”
While Clemson has won four consecutive Atlantic Coast Conference championships and two national championships since the 2016 season, that has just fueled Caslen even more.
After being asked if there’s one question Caslen has not been asked about Muschamp that he wishes would be asked, it’s, “What are you doing to prepare to beat Clemson in two weeks?”
Caslen said he does not blame Tanner for his university’s football woes.
“I love coach Tanner,” Caslen said. “I think he’s great. He’s hugely respected as an athletic director in the (Southeastern Conference).”
Then after Caslen was asked what it would take for Muschamp to be in his good graces going into the offseason, he said it’s simple.
“Have a great win over Clemson,” Caslen said. “That’d really be great. I love the coach. He’s a great coach. We should win the games we’re supposed to win. ... And then you should remain competitive in your conference.”
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Caslen: USC AD asked FSU about how it managed its buyout
BY SCOTT CHANCEY Morning News schancey@florencenews.com 1 hr ago
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University of South Carolina football coach Will Muschamp claps during his team's 24-7 victory over Vanderbilt on Nov. 2 in Columbia.
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FLORENCE – University of South Carolina President Robert Caslen said Monday he has not asked Florida State how it came up with money to fire football coach Willie Taggart earlier this month and pay him a buyout worth a little more than $18 million.
“No, but our athletic director (Ray Tanner) has,” Caslen said during an interview session at the Morning News. “And they’ve got a whole lot more money in their athletic endowment than we do. I know that, for a fact.
"Listen, for the record, (South Carolina football coach Will Muschamp) is my coach, period. And he’ll remain my coach, just for the record. If you look at the athletic director’s statement (Saturday, supporting Muschamp before his team’s 30-6 loss to Texas A&M), that’s the same that I endorse.”
On Friday, Tanner released a statement that read: “Today, I want to make it clear that Will Muschamp is our football coach and will be our coach going forward. Caslen and I are fully supportive of his leadership and his development of student-athletes on and off the field. Coach Muschamp and our staff are dedicated to the success of Gamecock football. They have built a program where our team plays for each other and for our university, and they deserve our support. While we wish the outcome of some of our games would have been different, we are excited about the future of our program.”
Caslen, the university’s president since August, was then asked what Muschamp’s fate would be if Clemson wins by a large margin on Nov. 30 at Williams-Brice Stadium.
“If we’re totally imploding and no one shows up, I’d say we’ll have a discussion,” Caslen said. “But there’s no desire intended to make a change.”
If a Clemson blowout win forces Caslen’s hand, South Carolina would owe Muschamp a buyout. It’s $19.4 million before Dec. 30, but $18.8 million on Dec. 31. Muschamp, since taking over USC in 2016, has compiled a 26-24 record, including a 15-17 record in the Southeastern Conference. He lost eight of his past 12 games against Power Five opponents. He has lost three consecutive games to coach Dabo Swinney’s Tigers. This year the Gamecocks have a 4-7 record, and that includes a home loss to Appalachian State.
Caslen then disputed a Greenville News story last week in which the newspaper reported he said he is fully committed to Muschamp – at least for the final two games of the season.
"Coach Muschamp is my coach. That's the message. He will be my coach through the end of the season," The Greenville News attributed to Caslen. “And then, just like any other coach that's out there, whether it's a soccer coach, whether it's the equestrian coach, whatever, they're going to do an end-of-year assessment, the athletic director does. Then, we'll see what’s up.”
Caslen, on Monday, then gave his version of what happened.
“I did not say that,” Caslen said. “Those were three-minute-apart statements. I said, ‘Coach is my coach.’ Three minutes later, we had a discussion about what happens at the end of every athletic team’s season. A common practice that has gone on forever is that you assess. Frankly, I’m assessing my role: How can I as the president help his program? I have leadership responsibilities, too. Season assessment is important.
“You take THAT statement, and you take the statement, ‘He’s my coach until the end of the season,’ and then they twisted my words, and it ... me off to no end. How clear can I make it? He’s my coach. He’s the university’s coach. And the statement by Ray Tanner last week is the same that I support 100 percent.”
Earlier in the interview, Caslen referred to South Carolina’s 20-17 upset over Georgia, now the nation’s fourth-ranked team.
“That just shows we have the potential to be halfway decent,” Caslen said.
Later, Caslen was asked what is his favorite challenge in front of him, one that looks like he can have an impact that would be important to the state of South Carolina and one that he can impact quickly.
“To beat Clemson,” he answered.
“If the (team that beat Georgia) shows up, we can do it,” Caslen’s wife, Shelly, added.
Caslen then followed that up.
“If Clemson has one of those days, and we have one of our Georgia days, it’s game on, because the talent is there,” Caslen said. “It’s a matter of getting the kids to play together as a team, that’s all. But we’ll figure it out."
Clemson, which has won five consecutive games over the Gamecocks after South Carolina won the previous five, is a hurdle Caslen wants his program to get over soon.
“Everybody wants to be part of a winning team,” said Caslen, a former Army football center and retired Lieutenant General in the U.S. Army and former West Point superintendent. “No one wants to be part of a team that’s not winning. That’s just the way America is. That’s just American culture, right? We all want to be around a winner.”
While Clemson has won four consecutive Atlantic Coast Conference championships and two national championships since the 2016 season, that has just fueled Caslen even more.
After being asked if there’s one question Caslen has not been asked about Muschamp that he wishes would be asked, it’s, “What are you doing to prepare to beat Clemson in two weeks?”
Caslen said he does not blame Tanner for his university’s football woes.
“I love coach Tanner,” Caslen said. “I think he’s great. He’s hugely respected as an athletic director in the (Southeastern Conference).”
Then after Caslen was asked what it would take for Muschamp to be in his good graces going into the offseason, he said it’s simple.
“Have a great win over Clemson,” Caslen said. “That’d really be great. I love the coach. He’s a great coach. We should win the games we’re supposed to win. ... And then you should remain competitive in your conference.”
quote:Caslen fires back at the Orangeville...I mean Greenville News through a Pee Dee news outlet. interesting choice by Caslen. TheSnake should take note.
“You take THAT statement, and you take the statement, ‘He’s my coach until the end of the season,’ and then they twisted my words, and it ... me off to no end. How clear can I make it? He’s my coach. He’s the university’s coach. And the statement by Ray Tanner last week is the same that I support 100 percent.”
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:06 pm to 1801
When you love the team more than the people making millions to coach it, lead it and oversee it, you know it's time to step away. Frick Boom. Frick Tanner. Frick Caslen. And frick every sorry arse piece of shite on the BOT for putting up with this garbage.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:22 pm to SCLibertarian
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Frick Caslen
Why for this guy? Has he really done anything yet?
Seems like he’s going against the BOT right now. No?
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