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Florida fans- How has Feleipe Franks been so far this year?
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:09 pm
Haven't seen him play much this year but how improved has he been under Mullen for y'all so far?
Just from stats it looks like he's hovering around 50% completion rate
I know Kentucky was rough one for him but looks like Kentucky is helluva lot better than anyone expected thus far.
Just from stats it looks like he's hovering around 50% completion rate
I know Kentucky was rough one for him but looks like Kentucky is helluva lot better than anyone expected thus far.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:26 pm to Tigerbait357
Improved as to be expected if not delusional. Kids finally being coached but has a long way to go.
He has went from 9-8 to 12-2 TD-Int ratio and anyone claiming that isn't good is a flipping idiot.
His presnap reads for blitz pick ups is World's better and he isn't getting sacked nearly as much. Also not runnijg out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage which he did...often.
Still needs a lot of work in speeding up his progressions and decision making. Needs to be more confident.
The improvement is clear, but it will be a slow process. He has one of the best QB coaches in football teaching him. But it won't be a miracle. Expect him to be pretty good next year once Mullen has a second full off-season with the raw talent
He has went from 9-8 to 12-2 TD-Int ratio and anyone claiming that isn't good is a flipping idiot.
His presnap reads for blitz pick ups is World's better and he isn't getting sacked nearly as much. Also not runnijg out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage which he did...often.
Still needs a lot of work in speeding up his progressions and decision making. Needs to be more confident.
The improvement is clear, but it will be a slow process. He has one of the best QB coaches in football teaching him. But it won't be a miracle. Expect him to be pretty good next year once Mullen has a second full off-season with the raw talent
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:13 am to Tigerbait357
He's better than I expected. I still worry he is going to throw some picks when he faces a better secondary. Still a bit slow to read, and still seems to pick some pretty small windows and trust his arm to make it work. I think we will lose at least one game due to that if he doesn't get that worked out.
I'm not quite onboard with him being good by next season, but I'm also not pissed that he is out there instead of Trask.
I'm not quite onboard with him being good by next season, but I'm also not pissed that he is out there instead of Trask.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:22 am to LuciusSulla
Has Trask played very much?
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:29 am to Tigerbait357
Not really, and I don't see him all week like Mullen does. I get Mullen making the choice to stick with Franks in order for him to not worry about the guy behind him on top of everything else. At the end of the day, Mullen sees these guys play day in, day out, and I don't. If Trask is good enough in practice for Mullen to think it should still be a competition and is keeping him on the bench anyway, then we have way bigger problems than Feleipe.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:45 am to Tigerbait357
He’s still below average. Not as bad as last year though.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:57 am to GatorBait24
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He’s still below average. Not as bad as last year though.
I think this is accurate.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:15 am to LuciusSulla
Thank y'all for the info
Yea seems like Mullen is doing the best with what he has right now.
Let him bring in his QB and develop them y'all should be in good hands at that position.
Yea seems like Mullen is doing the best with what he has right now.
Let him bring in his QB and develop them y'all should be in good hands at that position.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:21 am to Prof
I disagree. He is average at worst. Slightly above average at best. He has all the physical tools and is big, strong and tough, it is all about his decision making, which doesn’t seem to come naturally to him but I believe can be improved with hard work and time.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:29 am to bigDgator
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I disagree. He is average at worst. Slightly above average at best. He has all the physical tools and is big, strong and tough, it is all about his decision making, which doesn’t seem to come naturally to him but I believe can be improved with hard work and time.
Decision making is important, he sucks at it like bottom half of the SEC sucks. He also isn’t accurate that’s not a good combo. I don’t care if he can throw it 80 yards, he’s a below average QB.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 2:10 am to GatorBait24
I don't think he's doomed to stay where he's at all (I've seen too many QBs improve with hard work and experience to believe that) but right now his biggest strength is that he can throw a beautiful deep ball and can be a surprisingly good runner when flushed out of the pocket.
However, checkdowns don't come naturally to him. He struggles with blitzes badly and he's not accurate enough on short and intermediate throws. His OL doesn't help but he's still holding the ball too long/too slow to make a decision.
He has the arm talent and can improve (a lot of his flaws are between the ears and experience and time can help that) but right now he's struggling with a lot of things good defenses will make him pay for.
However, checkdowns don't come naturally to him. He struggles with blitzes badly and he's not accurate enough on short and intermediate throws. His OL doesn't help but he's still holding the ball too long/too slow to make a decision.
He has the arm talent and can improve (a lot of his flaws are between the ears and experience and time can help that) but right now he's struggling with a lot of things good defenses will make him pay for.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 3:42 am to Tigerbait357
We still have to mostly work the sidelines with him, but this new vertical passing game has done a lot to open some running lanes.
Kid loves to run the ball, but he isn't very good at it.
Last year he made about 2 or 3 throws all season that looked like a damn Aaron Rodgers NFL no-doubt frozen rope. This year he has 2 or 3 of those a game.
He's been money in the Red Zone and, most importantly, our coaches are not afraid to let him throw it down close. He has a real chance at 30 passing TDs this year.
Kid loves to run the ball, but he isn't very good at it.
Last year he made about 2 or 3 throws all season that looked like a damn Aaron Rodgers NFL no-doubt frozen rope. This year he has 2 or 3 of those a game.
He's been money in the Red Zone and, most importantly, our coaches are not afraid to let him throw it down close. He has a real chance at 30 passing TDs this year.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 5:09 am to Gatorbait2008
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Expect him to be pretty good next year once Mullen has a second full off-season with the raw talent
If Franks is the guy again next year, we are in trouble.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 6:06 am to Tigerbait357
He is limited because Of decision making. He holds on to the ball way too long. And he gets worse the more pressure you put on him to win the game.
But if the rest of the team is playing well and he gets feeling confident, he is ok.
Lots of room to improve.
But if the rest of the team is playing well and he gets feeling confident, he is ok.
Lots of room to improve.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:41 pm to Prof
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However, checkdowns don't come naturally to him. He struggles with blitzes badly and he's not accurate enough on short and intermediate throws. His OL doesn't help but he's still holding the ball too long/too slow to make a decision.
He has the arm talent and can improve (a lot of his flaws are between the ears and experience and time can help that) but right now he's struggling with a lot of things good defenses will make him pay for.
See, when I say this everyone jumps on me -- and I get that it's annoying, but it's the exact same thing I've said outside of his OL -- they're only allowing 1 hurry every 15 dropbacks. That's really good.
But he does hold the ball too long, throw late and as a result has a very low completion rating (47% vs FBS, 52.6 overall. He had 54.6 last year).
He's actually very sound in the short game (91% completion rate) but his pass selection favors intermediate/deep passes where he's hitting only 22%.
So he's
Short Passes: 21 - 23 (91%)
Intermediate Passes: 4 - 20 (20%)
Deep Passes: 2 - 7 (29%)
and his pass selection is
46% short.
54% intermediate/deep.
This is what's holding him back, and that decision making is what will harm our offense in the future against better defenses.
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