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Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:19 am
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:19 am
We have some armchair QB's that have excellent 20/20 vision when it comes to hindsight. They make the right call every time when looking back on decisions on the past.
So, I was thinking...with Brock Vandegriff and Caleb Williams out there at QB for 2021, whcih one should the coaches take?
Vandegriff, by most accounts wants to get his recruitment over before his senior year starts and that could come as early as February.
However, Williams is the flashier runner and will probably go at least a little longer with his recruitment.
Should the coaches go with Vandegriff and get a "bird in the hand", or should they wait on Williams and take a chance on losing a true running QB, but also could lose Vandegriff, too?
Anybody can answer, but I am particularly interested to see what oyer Nostradamus fans have to say. Let's see if you are willing to go on record.
I am willing to guess that our Monday morning QB crew will refuse to answer. They wouldn't want to lose their perfect record of making the right call after the fact.
ETA
FTR, I would go with Vandegriff, even though I do have some reservations about him.
So, I was thinking...with Brock Vandegriff and Caleb Williams out there at QB for 2021, whcih one should the coaches take?
Vandegriff, by most accounts wants to get his recruitment over before his senior year starts and that could come as early as February.
However, Williams is the flashier runner and will probably go at least a little longer with his recruitment.
Should the coaches go with Vandegriff and get a "bird in the hand", or should they wait on Williams and take a chance on losing a true running QB, but also could lose Vandegriff, too?
Anybody can answer, but I am particularly interested to see what oyer Nostradamus fans have to say. Let's see if you are willing to go on record.
I am willing to guess that our Monday morning QB crew will refuse to answer. They wouldn't want to lose their perfect record of making the right call after the fact.
ETA
FTR, I would go with Vandegriff, even though I do have some reservations about him.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 6:14 am
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:26 am to DawgsLife
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FTR, I would go with Vandegriff, even though I do have some reservations about him.
Exactly the same. Check what I just posted in the recruiting thread.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:50 am to DawgsLife
Assuming I’m Kirby:
Depending on the Mathis medical/transfer issue and how high the ceiling is for Beck, I would quietly tell both qb’s that GA intends to take 2 QBs this year, but only 1 5*. First to commit gets the spot.
I would not slow play BV if he is ready to commit. Modern recruiting classes are built around bell cow recruits. GA needs to shore up in state recruiting. Getting BV on board early would allow him to recruit others to the 2020 and 2019 classes and send a message to GA high school football.
The only reason I would turn BV away is if I believed he could not run the offense Monken wants to run.
Depending on the Mathis medical/transfer issue and how high the ceiling is for Beck, I would quietly tell both qb’s that GA intends to take 2 QBs this year, but only 1 5*. First to commit gets the spot.
I would not slow play BV if he is ready to commit. Modern recruiting classes are built around bell cow recruits. GA needs to shore up in state recruiting. Getting BV on board early would allow him to recruit others to the 2020 and 2019 classes and send a message to GA high school football.
The only reason I would turn BV away is if I believed he could not run the offense Monken wants to run.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:07 am to DawgsLife
1. Whichever one seems to be more locked in on Georgia.
2. If both then the dual threat which would be Williams
2. If both then the dual threat which would be Williams
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:55 am to DawgsLife
Take BV now although I think Williams would have a bigger impact. Can’t get caught without one this year.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:58 am to DawgsLife
Vandagriff is every bit a dual-threat as Williams, just not as much top-end speed.
They both have cannons for arms, great pocket agility and awareness, and can run well and make all the throws.
BV is more adept at running through progressions and is more accurate.
CW tends to tuck and run if his primary target is covered.
BV is prime Steve Young/Aaron Rodgers.
CW is Dak Prescott/Deshawn Watson.
BV fits Monken’s system better. We are not moving to a read-option scheme. It’s pass-heavy with a lot of receivers running routes. You want the more accurate QB who can go through every progression over the guy who likes to tuck and run more often.
They both have cannons for arms, great pocket agility and awareness, and can run well and make all the throws.
BV is more adept at running through progressions and is more accurate.
CW tends to tuck and run if his primary target is covered.
BV is prime Steve Young/Aaron Rodgers.
CW is Dak Prescott/Deshawn Watson.
BV fits Monken’s system better. We are not moving to a read-option scheme. It’s pass-heavy with a lot of receivers running routes. You want the more accurate QB who can go through every progression over the guy who likes to tuck and run more often.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:52 am to FlexDawg
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1. Whichever one seems to be more locked in on Georgia.
So, right now it would be Vandegriff? He left Oklahoma and when he committed to them he said we were #2, plus he wanted to be closer to home.
Williams seems to be a lean towards LSU right now, but we lal know how Kirby recruits.
Based upon what you said, should I put you down as a Vandegriff guy?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:56 am to BeefDawg
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Vandagriff is every bit a dual-threat as Williams, just not as much top-end speed.
Not sure I would agree that he is "every bit" a DT guy, but he can move in the pocket and is mobile.
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BV fits Monken’s system better.
Wow. I am not really familiar with Monken's system, as such, but that surprises me. I would have thought Williams would be the better fit based off what I have heard. That's interesting.
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It’s pass-heavy with a lot of receivers running routes. You want the more accurate QB who can go through every progression over the guy who likes to tuck and run more often.
This does make sense.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:02 pm to DawgsLife
Recruiting experts said Williams has been tearing it up at all the all star camps .
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:06 pm to athenian
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Recruiting experts said Williams has been tearing it up at all the all star camps .
Does that make you in the wait for Williams camp, at the possible expense of losing Vandegriff?
Sorry. just trying to nail down what people want to do. In the future if things don't work out with one or the other QB it will be fun to look back and see how many of our Hindsight coaches stuck by their statements, and how many hindsight coaches flipflop according to the circumstances.
(Not saying you do this. I don't remember you posting on here much.)
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:17 pm to DawgsLife
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Vandagriff, by most accounts wants to get his recruitment over before his senior year starts and that could come as early as January.
FIFY
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:18 pm to DawgsLife
Recruiting is fluid all the way to signing day, and beyond with new transfer rules. To say we should go allin on just one of these guys now isn't realistic. Take vandergriff and continue recruiting williams, if vandergriff wants to flip because he's scared after williams commits, or if williams is scared to commit because van is committed, then so be it.
Word on the street involving moncken and pass happy offense next year, if true and successful, why not attract more qb talent than you can reasonably keep on roster? Ohst and clem and bama do.
Word on the street involving moncken and pass happy offense next year, if true and successful, why not attract more qb talent than you can reasonably keep on roster? Ohst and clem and bama do.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:23 pm to AmericusDawg
Sorry. Was too lazy to look it up. I won't promise that it won't happen again as sometimes stuff like that gets trapped in my head.
January? Wow. Sounds good for us, then. Our hindsighters can start prepping their volleys soon.
January? Wow. Sounds good for us, then. Our hindsighters can start prepping their volleys soon.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:26 pm to deeprig9
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Recruiting is fluid all the way to signing day, and beyond with new transfer rules. To say we should go allin on just one of these guys now isn't realistic. Take vandergriff and continue recruiting williams, if vandergriff wants to flip because he's scared after williams commits, or if williams is scared to commit because van is committed, then so be it.
I get that, and I would agree with you, too. but I am thinking Williams pretty much eliminates us if we take Vandagriff. Maybe I am wrong.
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bama do.
Theirs seem to be drying up a bit, though. We'll see. It just doesn't look quite as strong right now, to me.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:41 pm to DawgsLife
id go after Vandegriff.
However... you know the best laid plans never work out ..
you'd like Beck to back up Newman in 20
Start in 20 & 21 with Vandegriff backing up taking over in 22 & 23... with hopefully Washington backing up in 23 and taking over in 24...
but i doubt it plays out that , way... but it has to be the plan I would think.... if they all play like 5 starts.
However... you know the best laid plans never work out ..
you'd like Beck to back up Newman in 20
Start in 20 & 21 with Vandegriff backing up taking over in 22 & 23... with hopefully Washington backing up in 23 and taking over in 24...
but i doubt it plays out that , way... but it has to be the plan I would think.... if they all play like 5 starts.
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