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SEC West's Regular Season Record Versus the East

Posted on 9/28/08 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/28/08 at 5:44 pm
1992: 9-9
1993: 10-7-1
1994: 11-6-1
1995: 9-8-1
1996: 8-10
1997: 9-9
1998: 7-11
1999: 9-9
2000: 10-8
2001: 9-9
2002: 9-9
2003: 11-7
2004: 10-8
2005: 9-9
2006: 9-9
2007: 8-10

First 16 Years = 147-138-3 (.516)

The West rocks the house.

EDIT:

2008: 4-4

Sept. 20, Vanderbilt 23, OLE MISS 17
Sept. 27, Ole Miss 31, FLORIDA 30
Sept. 27, AUBURN 14, Tennessee 12
Sept. 27, Alabama 41, GEORGIA 30
Oct. 4, Florida 38, ARKANSAS 7
Oct. 4, South Carolina 31, OLE MISS 24
Oct. 4, ALABAMA 17, Kentucky 14
Oct. 4, VANDERBILT 14, Auburn 13
Oct. 11, Vanderbilt at Mississippi State
Oct. 11, LSU at Florida
Oct. 18, Arkansas at Kentucky
Oct. 18, Mississippi State at Tennessee
Oct. 18, LSU at South Carolina
Oct. 25, Alabama at Tennessee
Oct. 25, Georgia at LSU
Nov. 1, Kentucky at Mississippi State
Nov. 8, Arkansas at South Carolina
Nov. 15, Georgia at Auburn
This post was edited on 10/4/08 at 8:23 pm
Posted by UGAalumDawg
Snellville, GA
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/28/08 at 6:25 pm to
Interesting stats Doc, thanks. I wouldn't have guessed that
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/28/08 at 6:35 pm to
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1993: 10-7-1


Does this include Alabama going 0-3 vs. the East? Or 2-0-1? They forfeited both wins and their tie against Eastern Division teams that year.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/28/08 at 6:39 pm to
imo the east will edge us out this year. arky is so bad they will cost us 3. moo state will cost us another 3 as well.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/28/08 at 6:39 pm to
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Oct. 4, Florida at Arkansas
Oct. 4, South Carolina at Ole Miss
Oct. 4, Kentucky at Alabama
Oct. 4, Auburn at Vanderbilt


Florida will beat Arkie, of course.
Ole Miss may have a letdown.
Kentucky would need a major upset.
Auburn should win.

I figure 2-2 here, bringing the season total to 5-3.
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Oct. 11, Vanderbilt at Mississippi State
Oct. 11, LSU at Florida

Tough one. Vandy will take MSU, but LSU-Florida could go either way. I'll say the East goes 1-0-1 here for now, then divide the tossups at the end. West record so far is 5-4-1.
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Oct. 18, Arkansas at Kentucky
Oct. 18, Mississippi State at Tennessee
Oct. 18, LSU at South Carolina

Kentucky, Tennessee and LSU should win. 6-6-1.
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Oct. 25, Alabama at Tennessee
Oct. 25, Georgia at LSU

Alabama and LSU should win. 8-6-1.
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Nov. 1, Kentucky at Mississippi State
Nov. 8, Arkansas at South Carolina

East wins both of these. 8-8-1.
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Nov. 15, Georgia at Auburn

Could go either way. 8-8-2.
Dividing the tossups, it looks like 9-9. SEC championship game to break the tie.



Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 9/28/08 at 6:45 pm to
Nah, I'm going by J. Howell's lists, so I've got it as 2-0-1.

I mean, hell, if Auburn has a 1957 NC, and OU has a 1974 NC, then why shouldn't Bama get those wins? If you start taking away wins for cheating and teams on probation and stuff, it would just end up throwing everything way off. Where would you draw the line?
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36691 posts
Posted on 9/28/08 at 7:19 pm to
uga-lsu isnt a toss up? go into that game thinking that man. everyone still has the love fest for florida after their shite, but now uga sucks. i love it
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3214 posts
Posted on 9/28/08 at 7:20 pm to
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Does this include Alabama going 0-3 vs. the East? Or 2-0-1? They forfeited both wins and their tie against Eastern Division teams that year.


No, it doesn't. If you include those--and the SEC championship game results--then it's almost a dead even series between the two divisions. The parity is amazing.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/4/08 at 8:22 pm to
The East strikes back...
Posted by Victry4LSU
Member since Jun 2006
549 posts
Posted on 10/4/08 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

Interesting stats Doc, thanks. I wouldn't have guessed that
Neither would 95% of the universe since we are brain wash by the media EVERY SINGLE YEAR proclaiming East superiority...............
1.) West leads head to head since 12 team league
2.) West leads head to head all-time
3.) West has more NCs
4.) West has more SECs
5.) West has 83% of its teams in the top 31 All-Time Programs.
6.) Reigning NC is from the West
7.) West has TWO different teams currently ranked #2 in different polls.

A question was once asked....."If I'm the worst team in each division over the last decade, let's say MSU and Vandy, who would I prefer to play every year?

MSU: Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas.
Vandy: Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia.

Just looking at that I think I would prefer to be MSU in the west."

Well look at the results.........
Since the SEC expansion in 92.......
MSU vs West....25-54-1 or 32%
MSU vs East....22-27-0 or 45%
Van vs West.....7-41-0 or 14%
Van vs East....12-68-0 or 15%
In both cases, the West was tougher.

People.....We been brain washed by the media. The East IS NOT BETTER than the West. It's going to be the same thing next year. The East this the East that. At best, the East is par with the West....Defenetly not better.

Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:50 am to
quote:

if Auburn has a 1957 NC, and OU has a 1974 NC, then why shouldn't Bama get those wins? If you start taking away wins for cheating and teams on probation and stuff, it would just end up throwing everything way off. Where would you draw the line?


I would be comfortable drawing the line at forfeits that are declared as part of the punishment. Auburn's wins in 1957 weren't forfeited as part of their probation punishment, but Alabama's wins in 1993 (except their bowl game) were. A forfeit is a specific punishment tailored to address a specific circumstance in which it is deemed warranted to strip a team of a win (or tie). In Alabama's case, it was using an ineligible player (and a damned good one, too), so I think it's fair to take away those wins.
Posted by ChuckDockery
NOLA
Member since Jan 2005
3088 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:52 am to
That 9 game advantage the West has over the East is largely attributed to the fact that they have Vandy and UK in the East.

Take a look at the bottom 2 of the West versus the bottom half of the East for the bulk of those years

OM and Miss St>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UK and Vandy
This post was edited on 10/5/08 at 12:54 am
Posted by caribG8R
TX or WY, ain't sure yet...
Member since Oct 2004
6086 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:01 am to
quote:

West has more NCs

Since '92-
Bammer 1 NC (92) and LSU 2 NC (03, 07)
UT 1 NC (98) and UF 2 NC (96, 06)

Who am I missing?
This post was edited on 10/5/08 at 1:03 am
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:10 am to
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so I think it's fair to take away those wins.


For the purposes of this thread, it would be an absurd thing to do. You can keep your records how you want, but for any reasonable discussion about who has beaten whom since '92, taking away Bama's wins makes no sense, nor does counting SECCGs.

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:13 am to


I think Shelley looks great in purple and gold. In fact, she was wearing a P&G shirt just last night over at my house.

Posted by caribG8R
TX or WY, ain't sure yet...
Member since Oct 2004
6086 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:16 am to
Next time she is over can you get her to talk Urbs into getting rid of Mullen?!?
Posted by Victry4LSU
Member since Jun 2006
549 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Since '92-
Bammer 1 NC (92) and LSU 2 NC (03, 07)
UT 1 NC (98) and UF 2 NC (96, 06)

Who am I missing?
Pre '92
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

For the purposes of this thread, it would be an absurd thing to do. You can keep your records how you want, but for any reasonable discussion about who has beaten whom since '92, taking away Bama's wins makes no sense, nor does counting SECCGs.
FWIW, Alabama and all schools in the SEC acknowledge those as losses. It's your thread and your records, but by no means did Alabama win those games.
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