Victry4LSU

Blame the saints all you want. Referees won the game for Carolina. Prove me wrong. Two defensive pass int. Counts for 1 team not the other. As expected, EVERY penalty in last 5 minutes went against one team. Obvious horse collar in the open just ignored. Easy holding calls not called on panthers. How does one team get every favorable call in last 5 minutes? Blatant cheating.

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They played Oklahoma, Georgia 2x, Ole Miss, and Florida. That’s 5. If you go by game rank, you just swap Florida and Auburn.

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I did confuse Florida and Auburn's ranking at respected times. I still stand by my argument if you may that one team played one hell of a lot of AP ranked teams than the other, 4 to 1 before the bowls or 5 to 2 after the bowls.

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How am I exaggerating


By claiming they played 7 games against ranked opponents when they only played 5.

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Playing ranked opponents at a 4 to 1 or 5 to 2 ratio is not exaggerating sos.

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We agree they were wrong in that evaluation, but it wasn’t inconsistency or a conspiracy.

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I remember hearing the Kansas City sports writer on ESPN claiming LSU was better but voting for USC. I still don't get where one team has NO argument, 11-1 vs 12-1 before bowl or 12-1 vs 13-1 after bowl, or SOS(BCS), SOS(polls), or worst loss, or common opponents, etc. The team that can't win any of these arguments was chosen over the team that wins everyone of these arguments.

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The AP Poll

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Team A) Final record 12-2 Played 5 AP ranked teams, 3-2 vs AP, 0 losses vs unranked, SOS #11 (BCS)
Team B) Final record 13-1 Played 6 AP ranked teams, 5-1 vs AP, 0 losses vs unranked, SOS #29
Team C) Final record 12-1 Played 2 AP ranked teams, 2-0 vs AP, 1 loss vs unranked, SOS #37

AP chooses Team C as their champion, The team that played less AP ranked teams, the team that beat less AP ranked teams, the team that lost to an unranked team, the team that played the easiest schedule of the 3 according to their poll and the BCS formula. Seems to me they disrespected and showed how worthless their AP poll was.

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Oklahoma lost to K-State 35-7. USC was peaking in December and had a fluke loss to Cal in September. It was just a ridiculous outcome.

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1) OU 12-1 had a better record than USC 11-1
2) OU's SOS was better than USC's.
3) OU's lost was to a RANNKED CONFERENCE CHAMPION. USC lost to an UNRANKED team.
What criteria would allow USC over OU?

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This is such bull shite coping nonsense. USC was #1 in the AP going into the bowls and won, why would they drop?

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Maybe if the AP voters RESPECTED their own poll, then they could of USED their poll and chose their champion based on the team that played 7 AP ranked teams and beat 6 AP ranked teams instead of giving it to a team that played 3 AP ranked teams and lost to a NON RANKED team. They SERIOUSLY IGNORED THEIR POLL

Mondo Duplantis

As someone mentioned earlier, we’re devolving instead of evolving. A great tradition taken away because of ridiculous claims. Yeah I’ll say it. Texas, Colorado, Florida St, Auburn, USC, Oklahoma, UGA, and everyone else can keep their traditions with their animals entertaining thousands of people, but LSU can’t. It was fine before. It’s still fine at other schools. If the concern is fireworks, get rid of the fireworks. If it’s noise from the crowd, put him in a soundproof enclosure. Problem is, people or groups that have no business speaking for how the majority thinks are having their way. You know these people. Statues are offensive. Male athletes can win 1st place in women’s events. Border protection are important for other countries, not ours. How bout this, I’m sure 99% of Americans were not offended with the pretty little Indian girl on “Land O Lakes” butter, but she’s no longer there because some how it was offensive. Kudos to Florida St for not caving in to name change. The Seminole Indians love it. Get this, [The Washington Commanders are being sued by The Native American Guardians Association, which has been trying to get the Commanders to change the name back to Redskins.
The lawsuit states:
“The logo on the Redskin’s helmet is an actual person, it’s Chief White Calf. Every time they go out on that field, they were honoring Chief White Calf and they were battling on the football field with the same honor and integrity and courage. They should continue to honor that.”]. My point again, people or groups making wrong decisions for the majority shouldn’t have their way. What’s right at Colorado should also be right at LSU. What’s right at FSU should also be right at Washington DC.

I just have the feeling if it was LSU in this scenario, the talking heads would make it a talking point of taking a playoff spot from FSU or LSU shouldn't be allowed to play with a possibility of vacating the 3 wins they were accused of spying on. If the investigation is no longer ongoing, then just ignore this post.

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Wrong. The AP was recognized as one of the two legitimate polls that could declare a national champion at the time. They won the AP Poll and we won the Coaches Poll.

USC was a legitimate national champion that year. It’s not their fault that they finished the regular season #1 in all polls and still got excluded from the championship game. The Coaches Poll made us their champion because their contract with the BCS required it. However, most people outside of LSU felt like USC was the better team.

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Tonight, we AP voters have to vote. First let's look at the teams, their overall records, their wins, their losses, their opponents, their SOS, their common opponents, their margin of victory, their most impressive win.......did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, we're AP voters and we rank teams as well, so we can use our VERY OWN POLL and RANKINGS as a gauge to determine who's best as well as the other criteria. Let's pick our #1.......

USC 12-1 LSU 13-1
We keep hearing that LSU has the better record vs better teams. Let's see how they fared against OUR POLL before we crown them OUR CHAMPION.

USC played 13 games and only 3 against our top AP top 30 teams, let's look at LSU. WOW. LSU played 7 of our very own AP top 30 teams.....That's half of their schedule against the teams we, the AP, are saying are the best in America. USC beat only 3 of our top 30 teams. LSU beat 6 of our top 30 teams. The BCS, as flawed as it is, agrees that LSU's SOS is better than USC's. Let's look at their losses. USC lost to WHO? Who is Cal? Are they even ranked in our AP rankings? No they are not. Well LSU's only loss was to one of our ranked teams. Ok. We understand if you don't bring your "A" game against one of our top AP teams, it's possible you could lose against one of OUR ranked teams, but loosing to unranked Cal? Well, we, the AP voters, are making progress and agree with the BCS on SOS....gotta be all our AP teams LSU is playing...yeah. Let's find out if these 2 have common opponents. Joe said both played Auburn and Arizona.

LSU beat both common opponents by larger margin and in a much more impressive manner. Is that true, Jim? Let's see, LSU was up 31-0 in the 3rd qrt vs Auburn and allowed the backups to mop up were as USC had to keep their 1st teamers in the entire game for 23-0 win. Stats don't lie and LSU had better margin of victory vs both common opponents...Another argument USC cannot win. Heck USC has nothing over LSU as of yet. Mark May and Trev Alberts keep saying USC has "blown out" the competition. Maybe there some truth to that, since we, the AP, did some research and found out that 10 of USC's 13 games were not against our AP top teams. Well, time to vote for our AP champion.

Overall record - LSU
SOS - LSU
Common opponents - LSU
played vs our AP poll - LSU
won vs our AP poll - LSU
voted our AP champion - USC

The stupid idiots IGNORED THEIR VERY OWN POLL to crown their champion. The stupid idiots demonstrated that their poll, THEIR POLL, THEIR POLL, THEIR POLL, was useless, meaningless, irrelevant, and worthless to crown their champion. While ignoring their own poll, these idiots also ignored overall best record vs their SOS and everyone elses SOS. This speaks volumes about the integrity of these corrupt cheaters and if not for the BCS which did pick the TWO best teams, LSU would have been cheated out of a NC. I'll say it again....Pathetic, they couldn't even use THEIR OWN FRICKIN POLL to crown THEIR champion.