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re: Henry Ruggs is facing 26 years in prison.

Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:40 pm to
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Honestly I'm not sure that's enough time.


People get less for 2nd degree murder. In some states they get less for rape. Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:54 pm to
I have absolutely no sympathy for someone that was going 150ish. If it was a normal accident yes, but 150 mph? If that is proven then I have no problem with 26 years.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:56 pm to
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People get less for 2nd degree murder. In some states they get less for rape. Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.


Yeah, there is a lot of backwards and unexplainable things in the criminal justice center. I am in the camp that Ruggs deserves to go to prison for a long time, but I also don't think they should lock him up and throw away the key forever. Ruggs' life as he knows is over. He'll very likely never touch a football again and will lose likely all the money he's earned in his short time as a professional. He destroyed the life of an innocent girl, her family, and his own family (and a child) who depends on him. It's very sad all around. But throwing him in jail for most of his adult life isn't going to bring that girl back or right all the wrong he did.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 10:58 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:05 pm to
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People get less for 2nd degree murder. In some states they get less for rape. Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.



Henry Ruggs intentionally got behind the wheel and engaged in a behavior that he knew could kill someone.

Or have you conveniently forgotten his three-finger bullshite after every touchdown? His supposed homage to his friend who was killed in a wreck...a gesture that now seems to have been more designed to call attention to himself. And that was a wreck that was just due to weather.

I'm not saying he should spend the rest of his life in prison. I do believe murderers should be executed. And I believe 10-20 years is appropriate for Ruggs. Besides...if he gets 20, we all know he'll be out on parole before that anyway.

He's what, 23 years old? He'll be out before he's 40-45 and still have a chance to have a life.

Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:26 am to
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People get less for 2nd degree murder. In some states they get less for rape. Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.


It also doesnt bring anyone back. No doubt I would want the death penalty if it had been my loved one, but it doesn't change anything. No sense in wasting tax money housing him forever when he still could do something down the road. Doesn't mean it wasn't a terrible, terrible decision by him. He'll have to live with that forever too. It's just a terrible situation from top to bottom.
Posted by Broadside Bob
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:39 am to
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quote:
Honestly I'm not sure that's enough time.


People get less for 2nd degree murder. In some states they get less for rape. Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.


I see a difference between this and someone whose BA was barely over the legal limit, and other than losing control of his car, was not breaking any other traffic laws. Ruggs' BA was twice the legal limit, and he was driving 156 mph. I'd call one negligent (for which there should be consequences), and one blatantly reckless.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 9:06 am
Posted by DWIGHT
LSU
Member since Dec 2008
224 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 6:07 am to
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People get less for 2nd degree murder. In some states they get less for rape. Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.


Do not knight for this Alabama thug

He was trash in Montgomery growing up, he is trash now

He just acquired more money. Good, responsible people know when and where to open up thier engines. Airstrips, deserted roads, dragstrips, etc

Trashy people drive fast in populated areas. This is Ruggs, a trashy person.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:21 am to
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decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life


Driving 156 on a public street is turning your vehicle into a murder weapon

If he was doing 70, maybe your point has merit
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18296 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 11:29 am to
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People get less for 2nd degree murder. In some states they get less for rape. Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.

That is a larger part of the problem of insufficient punitive measures for serious crimes based partly of false hopes, in most cases, of rehabilitation and another part consideration for overcrowding prisons. Deterrence isn't sufficient for most serious crimes.

I'd much rather a higher tax burden go to expanding capacity for prisoners and laws to enact harsher punishments than the same taxes go to support the released murderer/rapist on welfare when they can't gain meaningful employment after prison.

Murder with intent deserves death or life, as does forcible/violent rape that scars (physically/emotionally) the victim for life . Killing someone through extreme negligence should be a minimum of 10 years and a max of each victims remaining years of lives that were stolen from them presuming a 100 yr life.

It is sad all around. And, nothing will be sufficient to fill the loss felt by her loved ones. But, nothing worsens the pain more for those left behind than punishments that are shamefully inadequate. Neither gets true justice, but the latter worsens the injustice.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:16 pm to
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Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.
Posted by self_service
Member since Oct 2016
623 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 6:58 pm to
The first responders heard screams coming from the vehicle as Tina Tintor, 23, was burnt alive in her wrecked vehicle.

No one should make light of this situation. Some will say Henry Ruggs should get less time. Some will use it as a chance to dunk on Ruggs and Alabama.
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