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re: Derrick Henry Isn’t Just Defying Football History. He’s Making It.

Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:14 pm to
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What does "more educated" even mean really? Are you saying you have more degrees or something?

Personally I didn't go to college. I joined the military at 18. I am a self taught programmer. I've been a full stack developer for more than 20 years. I've written production programs that have generated millions of dollars in revenue and met with and helped develop/test software with companies like google. I lived in "Silicon Valley" for a decade before deciding to move back east in "semi-retirement".

I also enjoy creating AI that competes against other AI as a hobby. I can use any programming language you want easily.

But I guess you'd say I'm extremely "uneducated"?

Well that's dumb. Probably just about every person who posts on this forum has the kind of education that doesn't come with a piece of paper and isn't taught to people in schools.

It's called experience, and I guess they didn't teach you that experience > education.


Fair points. Perhaps an IQ test would have been a better standard. Just trying to find a way to get rid of a moronic alter.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:15 pm to
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Ban bet on who is more educated between us?


Pieces of paper dont prove you arent an idiot. Youve already demonstrated that quite well.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65527 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Defenses aren't getting smaller, they are getting bigger and faster.

What does that have to do with defensive schemes today compared to when teams were built around the run and stopping the run? Like why do you think edge rushers are so important now? Because running backs are so good or to get to the quarterback before they can throw the ball? This isn't a slight on Henry, it's just kind of a fact. Defenses are designed to play pass coverage and to try to sack the quarterback. Defenses are hamstrung by how officials protect offenses. That is a benefit for all offensive players. Henry is basically on the perfect team to showcase his abilities as a running back because they're one of the few that put such an emphasis on running the ball. No one is saying he isn't good or is only good because of how the game is now.
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10359 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:19 pm to
Man that is just one of the worst headlines I've ever read.

Truly moronic.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:20 pm to
It's not like there's a special defense that only Henry faces. Aside from the fact that teams do try to shut him down far more than any other RB.

That only reinforces how much more dominant he is over every other RB in the league
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:21 pm to
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Man that is just one of the worst headlines I've ever read.

Truly moronic.




Take it up with the writer then I guess.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65527 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:23 pm to
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It's not like there's a special defense that only Henry faces. Aside from the fact that teams do try to shut him down far more than any other RB.

That only reinforces how much more dominant he is over every other RB in the league


Literally no one has said he isn't the best running back in the league. People have even gone as far as saying that he'd be great in any era.

The only thing people have argued was in response to saying that "it's that much more impressive" that he's doing what he's doing in this era as if it's more difficult to run on defenses now than it used to be.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:27 pm to
I haven't seen that, but it isn't true of course. It should in theory be easier now, but for some reason only he is doing it. The advanced metrics show what he's doing is still HOF-worthy.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7022 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Haven’t we seen that any decent back CAN have a good season in this NFL? Isn’t that why RBs have lost value.
I think Henry would be great in any era because he combines elite physical gifts with a good attitude, but I don’t know that he isn’t being helped out a lot by playing in this era. All he can do is play in the era he’s in, and he’s doing a fine job of that.



RB's lost value because their lifespan shortened. The league became a passing league and the RB position wasnt one that was carrying a team. For him to continue to carry a team year after year, despite getting hit by bigger and faster guys is impressive.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23035 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:32 pm to
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What does that have to do with defensive schemes today compared to when teams were built around the run and stopping the run? Like why do you think edge rushers are so important now? Because running backs are so good or to get to the quarterback before they can throw the ball? This isn't a slight on Henry, it's just kind of a fact. Defenses are designed to play pass coverage and to try to sack the quarterback. Defenses are hamstrung by how officials protect offenses. That is a benefit for all offensive players. Henry is basically on the perfect team to showcase his abilities as a running back because they're one of the few that put such an emphasis on running the ball. No one is saying he isn't good or is only good because of how the game is now.




You are just pulling shite out of your arse. They can and do stack the box against Henry, just like they did tons of years ago.

Do you think teams run the same schemes and play calls for every opponent?

Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7022 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:32 pm to
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What does "more educated" even mean really? Are you saying you have more degrees or something?

Personally I didn't go to college. I joined the military at 18. I am a self taught programmer. I've been a full stack developer for more than 20 years. I've written production programs that have generated millions of dollars in revenue and met with and helped develop/test software with companies like google. I lived in "Silicon Valley" for a decade before deciding to move back east in "semi-retirement".

I also enjoy creating AI that competes against other AI as a hobby. I can use any programming language you want easily.

But I guess you'd say I'm extremely "uneducated"?

Well that's dumb. Probably just about every person who posts on this forum has the kind of education that doesn't come with a piece of paper and isn't taught to people in schools.

It's called experience, and I guess they didn't teach you that experience > education.


Any good resources for someone who has to take a C++ class for my EE degree next semester?
Posted by ClassicCityAlum
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2019
883 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:33 pm to
“Mulkey Man,” I think you misapprehend the meaning of the word, “education.” You (presumably) went to LSU. Learning gumbo cooking from toothless Cajuns in the swamp at the lowest ranked university in the SEC (which is really saying something) is not an education. Not a good bet on your part.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:33 pm to
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I don’t know that he isn’t being helped out a lot by playing in this era


From the article:

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Another argument against Henry’s historical greatness is that modern defenses aren’t built to stop the run. When Payton got the ball in the 1970s and ’80s, he ran at eight players whose primary task was stopping him. No one was concerned about the Bears throwing the ball.


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Opponents know that he’s getting the ball. They simply can’t stop him. Year after year, Henry leads the league in yardage against stacked boxes. According to Next Gen Stats, he’s faced an eight-man box on 37.7 percent of his carries this season, the third-highest rate in the league—and he has more rushing attempts than the two guys above him combined.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:38 pm to
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“Mulkey Man,” I think you misapprehend the meaning of the word, “education.” You (presumably) went to LSU. Learning gumbo cooking from toothless Cajuns in the swamp at the lowest ranked university in the SEC (which is really saying something) is not an education. Not a good bet on your part.


You have no idea.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:40 pm to
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You have no idea.


You clearly don't either when it comes to football. Maybe stick to women's basketball with the other lesbians.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:42 pm to
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You clearly don't either when it comes to football. Maybe stick to women's basketball with the other lesbians.


OK alter.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65527 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:44 pm to
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You are just pulling shite out of your arse.

Nah, y'all are just overly sensitive of benign comments that aren't even a slight against Henry.

For instance, in the nextgen stats provided regarding % carries facing stacked boxes...that fails to address comparing those numbers to previous years. More than twice as many players were facing stacked boxes on 37%+ of their runs than are this year, and Henry actually faced MORE stacked boxes at 52% just 5 years ago than he does now at 37%. He faced stacked boxes on 50% of his runs in 2017, then 32% in 2018, 35% in 2019, and 27% last year. Oddly enough, or not so oddly enough, he faced fewer stacked boxes than he ever has in his career year in 2020 and was 17th in the NFL in that metric.
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53484 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:49 pm to
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LSU fans literally last week:

quote:
WHY DO GUMPS ALWAYS BRING UP DERRICK HENRY IN LF7 POSTS ? ?



LSU fans today:

Randomly bring up LF7 in a Derrick Henry post



Hypocritical as usual



Damn.

What a fail.

Along with everyone who upvoted you.


Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:51 pm to
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But Buga!


Thread about Henry, first response from a Bama fan is about Fournette.
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23035 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:57 pm to
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Any good resources for someone who has to take a C++ class for my EE degree next semester?


Sorry, never taken such classes so I'm not sure what you can expect.

If you want to learn how to program in C++, then there are tons of tutorials on YouTube to get you started.

Also you can try to solve challenges and contests on some websites. For example: codingame.com/ is a good one. They have 4 main competitions each year, and they are promoting the fall one currently, but beyond that they have a lot of smaller puzzles you can solve. You can pick any language you want, and you use their built in IDE to code/compile.

Oddly enough, the best way to learn programming is to just make programs. Then you'll create the bugs, learn from the mistakes, etc.

But I always figured those kinds of classes was about memorizing syntax etc, which I find useless.



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