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Is it possible that the NIL stuff is actually starting to have an effect on some players?

Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:16 am
Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:16 am
I don’t think we would have a problem if our guys didn’t just win a title. Obviously the true freshman have something to prove, but a lot of our guys just seem like they don’t care.

That game kind of seemed like an NFL game. Even the best NFL teams sometimes have weeks where they just seem disinterested because they already have the playoffs locked up, etc.

I don’t think the NIL thing is causing a big enough issue for that abomination, but I could see it effecting a few players mentality.
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:34 am to
Personally, I think it could be why we passed 3 times inside the 4. They may be trying to help stats for the profile players. Just a guess.....
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13325 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:46 am to
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Personally, I think it could be why we passed 3 times inside the 4. They may be trying to help stats for the profile players. Just a guess...


Are you serious ?
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:49 am to
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Are you serious ?


So, you don't think when money is being tossed around that players don't want stats to get more money? Are ARE serious are just naive?
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:50 am to
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Obviously the true freshman have something to prove, but a lot of our guys just seem like they don’t care.


Is there evidence that they don’t care? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I’m seeing a lot of “these guys don’t care” comments and not a lot of acknowledgment that they may just not be as good as we thought.

Bryce for example is a very good young QB, but his footwork and inaccuracies make it pretty shocking the 247 people thought he was our best signing in 247’s history.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4364 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:50 am to
Jesus.... Wow...
Posted by Gustave
Member since Nov 2015
3389 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:52 am to
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Bryce for example is a very good young QB, but his footwork and inaccuracies make it pretty shocking the 247 people thought he was our best signing in 247’s history.


If he had Macs veteran OL, Najee, Devonte, and Waddle we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13325 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:58 am to
They may want stats but that has no bearing on what play a coach calls… geez man

Heck everybody wants TDs, yds, etc. That’s not new bc of NIL
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 10:05 am
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4210 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:04 am to
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They may want stats but that has no bearing on what play a coach calls… geez man


I 100% don't think Bryce cares about stats because of NIL, but those calls were RPOs so he did have the option to run or pass.

That being said, I could see that with other QBs trying to garner more NIL money. But not Bryce. I know his family personally and that's not part of their makeup.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13325 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:07 am to
I agree .stats come with success . There is not a RB, Qb, WR etc who doesn’t want the ball . That is football I don’t think BOB or Saban or whomever are calling plays to pad certain players stats… that is crazy. Hell they just want to win like we do
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 10:11 am
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12632 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:11 am to
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If he had Macs veteran OL, Najee, Devonte, and Waddle we wouldn't be having this conversation.



No we still would. Bryce misses passes - some of them easy passes. He’s got things to work on like everyone else on the team.

Our last drive he threw two straight passes in the dirt. They were still catchable so Billingsley and Metchie share blame on those plays, but those were poor throws under no pressure.
Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
3564 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:17 am to
I’m not talking about Bryce. Bryce has been a Heisman candidate. I’m mainly referring to guys like Bolden, Metchie, Christian Harris, etc.

Where have these dudes been in some of these big games?

Is our O line struggling in pass pro because of Bryce making so much in NIL while they get nothing?

It seems weird to have an o line this bad in pass pro with all the talent:
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13325 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:19 am to
I am responding to the poster that said we threw 3 times from the 4 yd line bc of NIL deals… I think that is crazy
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:26 am to
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Is our O line struggling in pass pro because of Bryce making so much in NIL while they get nothing


So what you are suggesting is the players on the OL are tanking so Young sucks it up due to jealousy and greed.

Some of you really need to get a grip.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:27 am to
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I don’t think the NIL thing is causing a big enough issue for that abomination, but I could see it effecting a few players mentality.



Same here, I think it is any easily identifiable thing to point at and pretend like it isn't inherent in the program, but we have seen all of the problems we had on Saturday before.

Players not getting up for a team they should beat - we usually pull it out in the end though.

Players not focused in the year after a national championship, particularly when we lose all of the leadership.

Horrible defensive performance, missed assignments, etc. - just look at the last three years.

Sure it could be a distraction, and may impact some players but Bryce seems to be focused in even though he had a bad game (he did pretty well given all the pressure, young players can get happy feet and start moving quick after taking heat all game in a tough environment). NIL doesn't really make sense to me as a significant factor when so many players appeared out of it.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 10:29 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:28 am to
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Personally, I think it could be why we passed 3 times inside the 4. They may be trying to help stats for the profile players. Just a guess.....




Our coaches call the plays not the players. I would bank if a player completely changed the call he would be sitting on the bench.

If Saban was so worried about padding the stats we would have several more Heisman Trophies in the case.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:32 am to
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Players not focused in the year after a national championship, particularly when we lose all of the leadership.



Saban has preached this every year after a NC.

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Players not getting up for a team they should beat - we usually pull it out in the end though.



To many inexperienced players who have yet to buy in. We lost and almost lost 2 games(aTm and UF) on the road for record crowds where both teams played us like it was their superbowl. They had something to prove where we have to many players just like so many posters that feel so entitled that just because you suit up in a Bama uniform it will be another walk in the park on the way to another NC.

What Saban has done in his tenure will never be repeated by anyone and is just amazing but yet some on here think it is a failure if we do not win a NC every year.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:38 am to
Ya, he hopefully has another 3 or so in him that we will get to enjoy. I find it pretty hard to get mad about losses like I used to after being spoiled
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5204 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
Or if we had Sark
Posted by EasternShoreTider
Fairhope, AL
Member since Oct 2018
992 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 1:25 pm to
Interesting theory. I think it's still a little too early to tell how NIL will affect certain players. Now 6-10 years down the road, who knows how players will respond with regards to personal financial choices over a team's best interest.

However, this all could be a motivator and a good thing for players/team as well. Maybe they will practice harder in order to compete/play at a higher level, thus increasing their financial gains and NIL options.

Who knows...we shall see.
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