re: Reason why JS is struggling in New England

I think we agree here.

The article is also true too. Did Auburn and Baylor’s offense prepare Stidham for the NFL? Hell no it didn’t

Is that meaningful for great QBs? Absolutely not. Great QBs learn, adapt, and grow. The bad ones don’t. It’s not Gus’s fault that Stidham sucks in the same way that it’s not Gus’s triumph that Cam reached the super bowl and won a MVP.

Anyway. This has been a long back and forth to establish that we agree. I’m sorry if I missed something earlier than threw me off track but the hoops people (not yours) go through to support their shitty opinions on this board can be hard to follow

But now you're completely stretching what Palmer said in the article. He never said that Gus or Briles "ruined" Stidham. He said that because of those systems which he spent his entire collegiate career in, he was extremely BEHIND in terms of the "non-physical" part of playing the QB position. The problem with this is that if you already come into the NFL from a lagging position, its extremely hard to not only make up that difference, but then also grow in the same way that all QB's MUST grow in the NFL to succeed. The article wasn't about saying "Stidham struggles because of Gus", all it said was that he thinks he struggled because he came in with a disadvantage due to the College coaching he received. That should be obvious and isn't even a point of challenge as you can see an "anti-Auburn" stigma by NFL personnel at virtually EVERY offensive position! NFL teams DO look at what system a player came out of because some are better than others at teaching/implementing NFL-ready skills. Malzahn's offense is quite obviously on the extreme low-end of that scale, as Palmer correctly pointed out.

But let me guess, NFL personnel are probably just "jealous" of Malzahn's vast success and his offensive genius? You mean the offensive genius that seems to show up completely at random with no foresight...as if Malzahn himself just kinda finds a pot of gold once every couple seasons? Did someone here seriously just suggest that his plays were being "copied"/"stolen" LMAO? Apart from the Wildcat which was a complete gimmick, everything else in his offense is just bits and pieces taken from other systems. That's fine and isn't anything to scoff at because it's not like there's still "undiscovered" things to invent offensively, but don't come here and suggest that Malzahn was some revolutionary who rewrote offensive football LMAO. His one "principal philosophy" (going fast) is now done better by 50%+ of the schools in the country. And those schools are all also playing with the new substitution rule changes. His offense is actually fairly slow and has been for years - it only works in going fast when he has an overpowered run game that he can spam without much thought.