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Three issues I haven’t seen discussed

Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:43 am
Posted by lambertdawg
South Forsyth County
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:43 am
1. Camarda’s blown punts. If he doesn’t shank that punt at the end of the first half, they don’t score and it’s a different game coming into the second half. Plus, he shanks another one later in the game to alllow UF to keep up the pressure on our D, as if that hadn’t been the case all night.

2. UF kept torching us with the RB coming out of the backfield as a receiver. Our adjustment was woefully inadequate if not nonexistent

3. Mathis’s body language/demeanor on the sideline told me all I need to know about him. On top of the “my bads” and patting himself on the chest to acknowledge shitey/missed passes, his pouting on the sideline is unacceptable and shows he doesn’t have what it takes to lead a team.
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 11:05 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19422 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:45 am to
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Camarda’s blown punts


Fatigue?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40239 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:48 am to
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UF kept torching us with the RB coming out of the backfield as a receiver. Our adjustment was woefully inadequate if not nonexistent


You suggest taking the ILB’s off the field?
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14470 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:51 am to
1. Yes, normally our kicking game is good and Camarda sure didn't help our cause yesterday.
2. Our defense is decimated with injuries but at some point you would think the DC would assign someone to stop Pierce from being wide open out of the backfield.
3. Mathis behaves like someone who had brain surgery and it definitely shows in his demeanor. I would guess that he is reconsidering his football career but probably doesn't see many other viable options.
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 10:04 am
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
2388 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:58 am to
Mathis must be slowly coming to the realization that a successful college career for him begins anew at some place like Alcorn State
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43421 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 10:25 am to
Three excellent points. If it could go wrong then it went wrong yesterday
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 12:13 pm to
#2 bothers me.

I know the defense has given up some large point totals in the past.

But that is the first time that this staff appears to have been outcoached without the ability to adjust. It wasnt just personnel. It was scheme.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14470 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 12:26 pm to
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#2 bothers me.

I know the defense has given up some large point totals in the past.

But that is the first time that this staff appears to have been outcoached without the ability to adjust. It wasnt just personnel. It was scheme.


Likewise.
Our only excuse is that our defense was basically decimated with injuries and apparently we didn't have anyone out there who could cover Pierce out of the backfield.
When you lose your starting QB/Safety on defense, it hurts the entire defensive coordination. And frankly the way we lost LeCounte to a stupid motorcycle accident pisses me off because we have seen this act before and it seems like the play always ends the same with our team coming up short every season.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 12:36 pm to
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Our only excuse is that our defense was basically decimated with injuries and apparently we didn't have anyone out there who could cover Pierce out of the backfield.


That's part of what bothers me.
Rice and Dean are healthy. Covering the RBs is usually their responsibility.

I'm not positive about zone coverage in the flats. That changes more often. But typically when spread out and in man responsibilities, that falls on Dean or Rice.

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When you lose your starting QB/Safety on defense, it hurts the entire defensive coordination.


I do think this made Rice too valuable to sub. If Rice was on the sidelines, Lecounte could pick up responsibilities in aligning the defense and making the check calls. Without Lecounte, we may not have felt comfortable with Walker or Tindall quarterbacking the defense.
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And frankly the way we lost LeCounte to a stupid motorcycle accident pisses me off because we have seen this act before and it seems like the play always ends the same with our team coming up short every season.


We dont need excuses to be frustrated. We should be frustrated. But I don't mind <25 year olds acting like <25 year olds. I'm too libertarian to think that these kids should be under bubble wrap. For the most part, they have been responsible with covid (knock on wood). Was the accident Lecounte's fault? Or the other driver?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14029 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 1:17 pm to
We figured 3 out 1/2 way through the 3rd quarter. We chipped the RB and blitzed more. Trask is great with a clean pocket. When he had pressure and we took his primary away, he was not nearly as effective. It was a game plan against our defense. Too bad we didn't fix it sooner.
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
4000 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 1:37 pm to
Maybe Dan Lanning isn't an elite coordinator. Maybe his numbers are skewed in his favor because we overwhelm lesser teams with a lot of talent.

What was the last decent offense with NFL talent that we've shut down? UF last season?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14029 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 6:10 pm to
We couldn’t cover them in man without a lot of pressure. Same as Bama. Need to be able to
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
6128 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 7:38 pm to
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But that is the first time that this staff appears to have been outcoached without the ability to adjust. It wasnt just personnel. It was scheme.


How good of a defensive scheme can you really come up with if your personnel are so depleted that you're asking kids in the band if any of them can fill in at safety?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:48 pm to
Rice and Dean are healthy.
They cover the backs (did you see the game? Who was trailing to make the tackle).

If smith made a mistake, it's on him.
If burns made a mistake, it's on him.

But those yards by RBs... those are on dean and rice. The same as tank Bigsby against Auburn and the same as CEH against LSU (except when Cine was the 7th db).

Dont put injuries as an excuse when it was the starters (and coaching/scheme/playcalling) giving up the yards.

Are you seeing why it bothers me?
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 8:48 pm
Posted by lambertdawg
South Forsyth County
Member since Sep 2012
1040 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:39 pm to
In addition, there’s been so much bragging about how deep this D is, you can’t say the backups aren’t able?
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
6128 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 11:47 pm to
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Dont put injuries as an excuse when it was the starters (and coaching/scheme/playcalling) giving up the yards.

Are you seeing why it bothers me?


To some extent, yes. However, injuries disrupt the system. Players have to think about things that that they otherwise wouldn't, because they're not as sure about the guys filling in, etc. It therefore becomes easier to make mistakes, since focus isn't as strong.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 7:02 am to
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you can’t say the backups aren’t able?


I think Quay and Channing are more able to cover a RB out of the backfield than Rice.

I dont think Quay or Channing have seen every single offensive alignment and shift as it pertains to every single defensive alignment,call, and check.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 7:03 am to
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Players have to think about things that that they otherwise wouldn't,


Then that goes against everything Kirby preaches to our defense. Do your job. Know your assignment. Getting stuck between 2 makes you less capable of performing any role. We are a Gap/Assignment defense.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43421 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 7:57 am to
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Rice and Dean are healthy.


I thought Rice was dealing with a foot injury still? Is he back close to 100%?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40239 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 8:03 am to
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In addition, there’s been so much bragging about how deep this D is, you can’t say the backups aren’t able?


You are hopeless
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