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re: Protests blowing up in Downtown Birmingham

Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:10 pm to
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I did not bring up the matter of the 6 y/o kid. But I did point out that if the matters were that a black man and child had been shot, the reaction would have been vastly different. You know that is true just as well as I do.


Again, I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to TidalSurge specifically. I said to him that another poster today mentioned the boy. Your issue was about white people being killed by police and so was the article I quoted back to you. That's my connection with the article back to you.

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As far as the Scripture, I can promise you 100% that I have not misapplied them. But, hey, I am pretty certain that facts or evidence won't be dissuading you from your biases.



In the scriptures, one could lose his life over slander. Killed Jesus. Your personal application of who's guilty of such a grievous charge should carry with it some evidence of proof. Got any? Otherwise, you're sending out some very judgemental accusations that you may be short on qualifications for.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:29 pm to
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Do you people realize that 87% of statistics are made up and fighting over something someone purposely skewed to fit their narrative is silly.



Solus, now you are devolving into skepticism. Utter epistemological chaos is not a place you would want to go.

Some statistics are very poor, and most all can be misused, but that does not make all statistics worthless. There are absolute standards of truth and statistics, study and research can help us to get to it or to confirm what we already know.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:29 pm to
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Do you people realize that 87% of statistics are made up


Kinda like this one?
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15186 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:29 pm to
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There's no such thing in the year 2020.


I disagree, you can start with a non-news site that compiles database information.

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Do your own research instead of expecting other people to do it for you.


Again, I'm not the one trying to make a point. If you're going to insinuate that blacks are a certain way, provide actual proof. If not stfu and dead the narrative.

What an idiotic stance. A person makes an assumption due to possibly skewed information from a heavily partisan source and you expect me to do the homework? Nope.

The person who makes the assumption should be the one to backup their claim.


This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:31 pm
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
14393 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:44 pm to
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When a police officer does something terribly wrong, like the murder of Mr Floyd, it's tragically obvious that policeman had issues that made him unsuitable for being a policeman. The same applies to his fellow policemen who watched him do it and didn't make any effort to stop him.

The real problem is that the law enforcement human resource policies and systems must do a better job of preventing people who are not suitable for being a policeman from being one. That's what needs to be fixed. Similarly, any sherrif, police chief or police commissioner who fails to ensure that's being done is not suitable for his job.



I agree with this 100%. It would work if our motivation is doing what's right. I even gave you a like.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:53 pm to
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I agree with this 100%. It would work if our motivation is doing what's right.

That's kinda the point. Anyone who isn't reliably self-motivated to do what's right for the right reasons isn't suitable to be a member or leader of a law enforcement agency.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 4:03 pm
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:17 pm to
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That's kinda the point. Anyone who isn't self-moviated to do what's right for the right reasons isn't suitable to be a member or leader of a law enforcement agency.




In the workforce, we're taught all about being politically correct and then companies spend a ton of money explaining everything you wanted to know about sexual harassment but were afraid to ask. It's going to take a whole lot of something else to be that self-motivated in these areas of putting a value on life. But I hear yeah.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:28 pm to
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Minnesota AG upgrades the charge against Chauvin to 2nd degree murder and also charges the 3 bystander cops.

Good!
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:39 pm to
The dirty cops that are being charged
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75885 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:41 pm to
Maybe bamameister will acknowledge those aren't four white guys now.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:42 pm to
No chance
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25277 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:49 pm to
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Three former Minneapolis police officers - Thomas Lane, J. Alexander Kueng and Tou Thao - are being charged with aiding and abetting murder in the death of George Floyd.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75885 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:49 pm to
All joking aside, I'm glad they charged the three of them. If just one of them had spoken the frick up we wouldn't be in this situation. How hard would it have been to say to let him up?
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25277 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:57 pm to
In todays wild shite that I seen online is an Asian woman's tiktok video pledging her allegiance to the cause....by covering her naked body in actual shite. As in feces doodoo booboo crap.
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3090 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:59 pm to
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In todays wild shite that I seen online is an Asian woman's tiktok video pledging her allegiance to the cause....by covering her naked body in actual shite. As in feces doodoo booboo crap.

Well, this thread has taken a turn...
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22556 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:00 pm to
That’s definitely someone’s fetish
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25277 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:07 pm to
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taken a turn


My stomach did. I guess these influencers are so starved for attention that they are upping the game to get some views.

Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
7024 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:12 pm to
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It's a nuanced issue, but nobody really cares to dig in since they are already entrenched in their own views.


Truth.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:06 pm to
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For one where did you get this statistics? Please provide a non-partisan source.


Are you asking where he got the crime stats? If so, check the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report database. State and local LE agencies that get federal funds are supposed to report their data tot the FBI. In Alabama ALEA’s Crime in Alabama reports contain the info for our state.

I didn’t check them all but his numbers look about right. His murder number is right for sure. That’s the angle that will go undiscussed but IMO is the root cause of the whole problem.

There’s an even grimmer angle if you look at the CDC Causes of death data. For black men 15-34, homicide is not only the leading cause of death, it kills more than the rest of the top 10 combined. There are years when it is the cause of more deaths than ALL other causes combined. Cross reference that with the FBI data and you will also see that when a young black man is murdered 90-95% of the time the killer is also a young black man. It is completely factual to say that the greatest life threat to young black men are other young black men.

Fix that and you fix the other problems. It will be very hard. Us white folk are going to have to admit we have to do things like fund predominantly black schools better. Macon county will never be Mountain Brook, but if you want them to stay out of Holman you have to give them a chance. Macon county will never have the money so Mountain Brook is going to have to chip in more than they do now. Black folks are going to have to admit that those crime stats - particularly the murder one - are the biggest single reason fairly or not that when young black men show up Karen the soccer mom packs up her kids and moves away.
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