Road trip to Montgomery, BYO pitchfork

To do what?

Old folks homes aren't accepting visitors at this time due to COVID. You'll be wasting a trip. MeeMaw can't see you.

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To do what?

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Save businesses and peoples livlihoods

Nope.




Drive safe.

Lives are more important

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Save businesses and peoples livlihoods

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Yeah these are definitely more important than actual lives.

There is a tradeoff...

Patience.

When you aren't patient? See what is about to happen to Georgia in 3 to 4 weeks.

Not to mention the fact that the entire point of "flatten the curve" was to FLATTEN it. Not erase it. The only deaths that flattening the curve prevents are deaths that result specifically from logistical issues at hospitals. That is the entire logic of the exercise.

Without a vaccine the charts and graphs and predictions end on the same number of deaths and illnesses - the entire point of staying home was to make sure they were spread over time and not spiking in a 2 week period, overwhelming the system. In the last week or so people have begun to act as is if the goal is to stay home until the risk is gone and we stop sicknesses and death..........that isn't happening. That was never the goal.

Now, you can argue that it's too soon to open up and that it will create a spike or start a spike and cause need for another shutdown. Maybe so, we'll find out. But with a vaccine 12-18 months away there will ALWAYS be a reason to keep shut down for another month or so. At some point Congress is not going to be able to continue passing $500B weekly funding packages to keep America afloat.


I live in Atlanta and I'm certainly not jumping for joy at the fling the doors open approach that Kemp took........but I do think it's completely reasonable to give certain businesses the choice to open or not at this point. And listening to the reactions from some in the media portraying this as some sort of Battan Death March for the state is just absolutely ridiculous. In all likelihood, based on what we have heard from my clients and in the papers, most businesses are going to choose to stay closed or slowly open up. And in the end the populace will decide when they are comfortable. But they are given that option, and outside of some specific types of business I think that's very reasonable.

Especially when dealing with a state that goes from the density of Chicago or LA to the density of Montana or Idaho in the span of about 100 miles. It's impossible to have a one size fits all policy that works at this point in the virus timeline, IMHO.

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Yes I have family that lives in the western part of Virginia. Their county has like 9 confirmed cases. They should not have the same restrictions as my family that also lives in Virginia but near D.C.

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I also firmly believe that the people of this country have earned some trust. I'll be honest, I didn't think that the American people en masse would abide by these guidelines when they were announced - certainly not for 6 straight weeks or longer. And for the most part, across the country, they have! It's remarkable, and I think the general populace deserves one helluva pat on a back for that.

And I think people get it. But they are slowly getting more and more anxious at listening to people in New York tell them that they have to abide by the same guidelines as them when certain specific areas have literally 600% as many cases per capita as they do. That doesn't mean throw everything to the wind and go back to packing into elevators and slapping high fives, but it does mean acknowledging that things are not the same everywhere and crafting specific policies to take advantage of that.

And the media treating everyone from outside their NYC/LA sphere who is questioning why they are under the same guidelines as they can't feed their family and don't know a single person who has the virus as some sort of murderous a-hole who hates human beings and doesn't believe in science? Well that's not helping things at all.

He made a broad statment and I retorted with one.

Patience doesn't mean shutting down forever, it means waiting for the right time so the number of infected gets low enough.

Which is exactly what the OP isn't supporting.


What Kemp is doing to GA could possibly be historic. What I'm really worried about is people not realizing how long the incubation period is and thinking it's safe because they don't see a sharp spike in the next week.

I think decisions like Kemp and the Mayor or Las Vegas will cost us severly down the line and possibly even threaten our fall sports.

Better to sacrifice a little more time now then be screwed later.