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re: Yahoo Sports: "2019 LSU football officially the greatest team of all time"

Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23007 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Ahh the "complete team" that gave up 29 points to Clemson while LSU gave up 25.


Those types of arguments really don't mean anything when it comes to season rankings. Smart people don't put much weight into the transitive property.
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5754 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:42 pm to
2019 LSU
SP+ - 33.1
FEI - 1.46
F/+ - 55.0%
FPI - 30.3

2018 Clemson
SP+ - 28.6
FEI - 1.22
F/+ - 52.7%
FPI - 32.7

2018 Clemson ranked higher in just one of the above.

“2018 Clempsun is better tho!!!! I seent it! EYE TEST!”
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23007 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Well yes and no...I guess I can give you that one. We only finished tied for 1st in wins against Bama. Since we had the h2h against AU, you mind giving us the nod?


I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35936 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:47 pm to
Wow!

The greatest of ALL time?

That’s impressive.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53457 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Those types of arguments really don't mean anything when it comes to season rankings. Smart people don't put much weight into the transitive property.


I'm not arguing anything, just pointing out how dumb that whole "complete team" thing looks in retrospect
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Boo hoo


About what? LSU had a great team this year but thinking they were the best college football team ever should be classified as a mental illness.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12236 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:51 pm to
Wow, so the best team ever barely beats a crippled Bama team by 5 points.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23007 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

2019 LSU
SP+ - 33.1
FEI - 1.46
F/+ - 55.0%
FPI - 30.3

2018 Clemson
SP+ - 28.6
FEI - 1.22
F/+ - 52.7%
FPI - 32.7

2018 Clemson ranked higher in just one of the above.

“2018 Clempsun is better tho!!!! I seent it! EYE TEST!”


Those numbers only have meaning to the current year. You can't really take the raw numbers from 2 years and compare them.

But if you want to use them that way, then 2018 Alabama was 36.3 in the SP+. Which is probably the highest score ever there.

And of course, LSU still didn't rank #1 in any of those this year, the so called greatest team of all time. If you had a legit case for greatest of all time, you should be much further ahead of everyone else.



Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35936 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:51 pm to
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About what? LSU had a great team this year but thinking they were the best college football team ever should be classified as a mental illness.

I’m sure you know more than Yahoo Sports and the thousands of voters that selected LSU as THE Greatest Team of ALL Time.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65523 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Ranked wins should be what they were ranked at the end of the season


5 wins against AP top 10 teams in final rankings, 7 in the top 25.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23007 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:53 pm to
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I'm not arguing anything, just pointing out how dumb that whole "complete team" thing looks in retrospect


I honestly have no idea what the "complete team" thing is about. I only watch the games themselves, I don't turn on sportscenter or any of that other stupid shite ESPN puts on, which is what I imagine you must be talking about.


Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123857 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:55 pm to
5 pages?

Let me guess. Lots of butthurt?
Posted by MACtigers
9eaux1, TN
Member since Feb 2014
651 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.


Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65523 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Kansas State was at the beginning of an impressive run that stretched almost a decade.

Michael Bishop was a beast
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Yahoo Sports and the thousands of voters that selected LSU



Yes, I know there are thousands of LSU fans that voted for their team. I am sure most of those people don't even believe it.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7737 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:57 pm to
Of the final Top 8 teams in 2019, LSU either beat them or beat the team that beat them. They also gave up no TD passes in the playoffs against two of the best offenses in CFB history. They are the GOAT team.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53457 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 1:01 pm to
You before the game:

quote:

Now LSU thinks they are going into Titletown and beat Bama and Tua. 

Most delusional fan base in sports.


You after the game:

quote:

barely beats a crippled Bama team by 5 points.





Suddenly, by magic, they're "crippled".

You hate to see it.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35936 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Lots of butthurt?

Oh yes... pretty much every team is seething.

It’s incredible.

“B-b-b-but dAt NeBasKa tEaM tHaT bArElY bEaT 4-8 WSU aT hOmE wAz bEdDuh”

Apparently not!
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5754 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Those numbers only have meaning to the current year. You can't really take the raw numbers from 2 years and compare them.

But if you want to use them that way, then 2018 Alabama was 36.3 in the SP+. Which is probably the highest score ever there.

And of course, LSU still didn't rank #1 in any of those this year, the so called greatest team of all time. If you had a legit case for greatest of all time, you should be much further ahead of everyone else


So the 2018 Clemson team, who finished #3 in SP+, is better than 2019 LSU?

You’re talking yourself into circles.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23007 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 1:02 pm to
quote:


Suddenly, by magic, they're "crippled".


They were crippled before the game, some - myself included - just thought they would still be able to win even with it.

Not that hard of a concept to understand really.
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