re: Missouri Alumni/Student input requested *non football related*

You guys have been so helpful and informative! Truth be told, I’d love to send her Mizzou, but it’ll likely come down to money. UMKC is making a strong showing, She may may need to visit the campus.

I truly am grateful for everyone who is contributing to the conversation!

She also applied to Arkansas, and they can kiss my Cardinal bleeding arse ??. After tuition NRTA scholarship, I was looking at 35k a year. That’s WashU price ranges (I know - retail WashU is on par with Vanderbilt).

I got a friend that went through Mizzou medical. There was a class that was supposed to fail like half the students when she went there, about a decade ago. If I recall right it was in the undergrad part but advisors said a lot of students transfer that class in to avoid the MU prestige culling. IDK if it is like that anymore and it could have been a lie

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There was a class that was supposed to fail like half the students

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Organic Chemistry. With the labs required for the class, that could be a tough one to transfer in.

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Did any of you go to (or are going to) one of the schools on the list?

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Yes. Graduated from Mizzou. Also considered Washington University, Missouri State, Truman State, and UMKC.

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Are there other schools you would add?

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Washington University is the elite academic institution in the state so I'd recommend looking into it if possible.

To be honest, not sure which is best for biology.

My take on the schools I know at least something about:

Mizzou is easily the best social atmosphere. You'll get the true "college experience" going there. Overall, the academics are average for a large state school. Depending on the program, they have some above average to excellent academics. In my biased opinion, Mizzou offers the most rewarding overall 4 year experience. However, Mizzou will offer the least amount of scholarship $$$ out of all the options, regardless of your accolades.

Washington University is the elite academic school in the state/region and is usually top 40 nationally. Acceptance standards are high and you must also go to STL for an admissions interview as well. It's private so will be expensive, but I'm unfamiliar with potential scholarship assistance. A degree from this school carries weight.

Missouri State is Mizzou-lite. It's a large school (23k+) with D1 athletics, but is definitely a mid-major university that is a tier or two below Mizzou. I personally really liked their campus, and Springfield is a nice town/city. Academics are not bad, but they are probably below all others on this list. They will be more apt to giving scholarship $$$ than Mizzou though.

Truman State is a very good regional academic school. It's not on WashU's level by any means, but for Missouri and the immediately surrounding states, it has very good academics. That being said, the campus is small and pretty boring in my opinion. Kirksville is the same. This might be the worst "college experience" on the list. Imagine a library full of kids studying on a Saturday night, and that's Truman. But if all you want is good academics, this is a great choice.

UMKC is part of the MU system. It holds a good reputation in Kansas City, but I don't think the outside world thinks much of it. I would compare their academics to Mizzou, which makes sense as there is a lot of collaboration between the two schools depending on the field of study. Overall average for a state school, but they have certain programs that are very good. Pharmacy and 6 year med program are two of those. Campus is decent, and decidedly more urban than the rest.

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Mizzou only coughed up $4,500? I would have thought there would be more opportunity

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That’s par for the course. That’s their top scholarship for academics.

Yup. I can assure you unless it’s a 35-36 on the ACT, Mizzou isn’t going to shell out any more than they offered already.

With that said, the state of Missouri gives a “Bright Flight” scholarship if you score a 30 or above, so that’s worth considering.

As a current senior in college with friends at most of these universities, I feel like I have a pretty good idea.

Rockhurst - I know very little

UMKC - If your daughter wants to go into the medical field this is a GREAT option, any other program is the ugly stepchild of the UM System. One of my friends did her first 4 at MU and is going to finish up at UMKC.

Mizzou - As a current student I'm clearly biased... BUT, a degree from MU will be known anywhere you go - and the alumni network is huge. All of my friends from Highschool that attend other universities constantly beg to come up and visit (for literally ANY reason, especially on game days). Out of in-state schools, MU has the best experience with plenty of opportunities for networking.

Missouri State - This is the school where most of my friends that chose not to attend MU ended up. I like Springfield, but I'm glad I didn't go to school there... a few of my friends have told me that they wish they chose MU over State. All in all, id say this is #2 on the list.

Truman State - ew, Kirksville. (enough said)

SLU - I'm from the Lou, SLU was always cool but was never really an option for me. My friends that chose to stay there really like it though.

By the way, your daughter doesn't want to go to S&T because she would then be part of the small population of women on campus. On the bright side, if she went there she would probably end up married to a (future rich) Engineer?? There is something known as the "Rolla Bump" know by people my age... any rank 1-10 a female is, add 3 when she is in Rolla. Supply and demand I suppose rotflmao:

I wish your daughter good luck, it's a fun time in her life... MIZ!

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The largest contingents of engineers came from Rolla, UMC, UMKC, and Kstate. We all got paid the same

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Don't tell my friends that go there that, they are all justifying their current Rolla induced pain by convincing themselves that they will be paid better due to their S&T degree. That school must have one hell of a propaganda scheme or something... I will never understand.

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She also applied to Arkansas, and they can kiss my Cardinal bleeding arse ??. After tuition NRTA scholarship, I was looking at 35k a year. That’s WashU price ranges (I know - retail WashU is on par with Vanderbilt).

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Yeah, I was gonna say, I think undergrad is closer to 50-55k and med school even higher. And that's just tuition. I think I read somewhere that Wash U Med School, all in, is about 90k per year. Could be way wrong. Going off the top of my head.