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re: Ranking the 1-Loss Playoff Teams by Quality Wins
Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:27 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:27 pm to BHMKyle
Is no one going to tell me how 2017 Wisconsin (12-1) was not even in the discussion but 2017 Alabama (11-1) was an obvious Playoff Team?
Again, I'm not saying Wisconsin should have gone ahead of Alabama, but their resumes were very similar. Very similar. And one of those teams was included in the Playoff and we were supposed to all take it at face value as not even confrontational at all.... and the other team was set into a pile on the other side of the table as not even being considered.
Please someone tell me why Alabama's 2017 resume was far and away better than Wisconsin's. I've never heard anyone tell me why there was such a giant gap in those program's accomplishments that year.
Again, I'm not saying Wisconsin should have gone ahead of Alabama, but their resumes were very similar. Very similar. And one of those teams was included in the Playoff and we were supposed to all take it at face value as not even confrontational at all.... and the other team was set into a pile on the other side of the table as not even being considered.
Please someone tell me why Alabama's 2017 resume was far and away better than Wisconsin's. I've never heard anyone tell me why there was such a giant gap in those program's accomplishments that year.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 1:29 pm
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:35 pm to BHMKyle
Because they don’t have to use any metric if they don’t want. A 5th grader could see Alabama was a better team than Wisconsin.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:42 pm to BHMKyle
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Is no one going to tell me how 2017 Wisconsin (12-1) was not even in the discussion but 2017 Alabama (11-1) was an obvious Playoff Team?
Wisconsin was in the discussion, I imagine. The problem with Wisconsin wasn't a comparison to Alabama, but rather the circular logic of letting them in vs Ohio State.
OSU beat them. They're in.
Wisconsin had the better record. They're in.
OSU lost by 30 and had 2 losses. They're out.
Wisconsin lost to OSU. They're out.
Wisconsin was left in a weird place because they lost to an Ohio State team that looked like a terrible Playoff contender. That loss was like a stink they could not scrub off.
OSU needed to destroy Wisconsin and prove they were the absolute, 1000000%, big boys of the Big 10.
Remember, Wisconsin went into that game #4 in the playoff polls. They win, even by a hair, and they were in. No ifs, ands, or buts.
Losing to a #8 Ohio State team meant that the committee now had to either:
Move a 1-loss Alabama team to #4 from #5
Bump a 2-loss, #8 Ohio State team to #4
It is a series of events, not a singular event.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:20 pm to BHMKyle
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Is no one going to tell me how 2017 Wisconsin (12-1) was not even in the discussion but 2017 Alabama (11-1) was an obvious Playoff Team?
They absolutely should have been. But, much like Baylor and Utah this year, those teams don't get national discussion most of the time.
Also, as noted above, they got caught in the B1G situation with Ohio State.
Per Sagarin Rankings
Wisconsin
Avg Opp : #53
0-1 vs Top 10
3-1 vs Top 30
5-1 vs Top 50
#2 Ohio State (L)
#18 Iowa (W)
#20 Northwestern (W)
#26 Michigan (W)
#37 Purdue (W)
#47 Florida Atlantic (W)
#62 Minnesota (W)
#75 Nebraska (W)
#77 Maryland (W)
#89 Utah State (W)
#112 BYU (W)
#126 Illinois (W)
Alabama
Avg Opp : #59
0-1 vs Top 10
3-1 vs Top 30
4-1 vs Top 50
#8 Auburn (L)
#17 Mississippi St (W)
#19 LSU (W)
#28 Florida St (W)
#43 Texas A&M (W)
#53 Fresno St (W)
#57 Ole Miss (W)
#74 Arkansas (W)
#83 Vanderbilt (W)
#84 Colorado St (W)
#92 Tennessee (W)
#151 Mercer (W)
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 2:29 pm
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