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Bad losses don’t matter to the CFP committee

Posted on 11/16/19 at 5:33 am
Posted by Buga
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 5:33 am
Apparently a good win does. They’ve said as much with this week’s poll.

A team has one of the worst losses in the top 15, losing to a 4-6 team at home that lost to App st. Yet the CFP committee chose to rank them ahead of Alabama. This can only mean that their Florida win carried a lot of weight, because the losses aren’t even close to comparable.

To me, this is bad news for Alabama and good news for a one loss Oregon or Oklahoma. Again, using the rational for committee’s decision to rank the team referenced above ahead of Alabama as evidence, if Oregon and Oklahoma finish with one loss they would more than likely have beaten a top ten team to get there. Alabama just doesn’t have a game on their schedule to make up for this.

Alabama could potentially give Auburn their 4th loss end the season having no wins over a top 25 team. If they get in over a one loss conference champion with that resume then Bama privilege is a real thing.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 9:45 am
Posted by SXV
Member since Feb 2016
1679 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 5:35 am to
Auburn will still be top 25 four losses.

Oh and oF cOuRsE tHeY aRe GoNNa DRoP iF tHey LoSe to Us
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9050 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 5:41 am to
What matters is having more than one loss. That has been shown to matter quite a bit.

Auburn would've gotten in with two in 2017, but they had to beat two no. 1s and then beat one of them again (which they didn't do) to get there. And one of their regular season losses was to a playoff team.

I think what the committee is saying is that two quality wins can negate that loss to a great extent. None of this really matters. The only ranking that matters is in December. It just assures UGA fans that if they win out, they are in. I never really doubted that anyway.

And just so you know, I'm not by any means banking on winning out. Feel it's far less likely this year than the last two.

Posted by bayou prince
NC
Member since Oct 2019
1440 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 6:10 am to
That's total bs. OSU lost 1 game last year and won the conference. THEY were left out because of a bad loss. It was the same thd year before.
Posted by AllDawgCK
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
2276 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 6:31 am to
There is also a difference in losing straight up and losing how we lost.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40080 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 6:42 am to
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Georgia has one of the worst losses in the top 15


We also have two of the best wins of anyone in the top 15. Maybe that carries more positive weight than the one terrible loss.

What quality wins do Oregon, Oklahoma or Bama have right now?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:10 am to
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Georgia has one of the worst losses in the top 15, losing to a 4-6 team at home that lost to App st. Yet the CFP committee chose to rank them ahead of Alabama. This can only mean that their Florida win carried a lot of weight, because the losses aren’t even close to comparable.



Or....hear me out, now...it could be because we have beaten two ranked teams. Two teams that were ranked in the top 10 when the game was played. Granted, I prefer to go by end of year rankings to gauge SOS, but one is still ranked #11 and the other #17.
Nothing against Alabama, but they have not played a ranked team yet, and will probably only play Auburn while ranked....but so will Georgia.

See what happens when you fixate on one aspect and throw out other aspects? You would have a point if only one thing mattered. Funny how LSU fans like to harp on Alabama's weak schedule most of the time, then throw it out at other times.

quote:

To me, this is bad news for Alabama and good news for a one loss Oregon or Oklahoma.

It could spell trouble for Oregon because of their schedule, but Oklahoma will be fine with their schedule...if they win out.

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Alabama could potentially give Auburn their 4th loss end the season having no wins over a top 25 team. If they get in over a one loss conference champion with that resume then Bama privilege is a real thing.
This is a legit point.
Posted by cyclingout
God's country, SC
Member since Apr 2019
2238 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:12 am to
App State isn't that bad of a loss for Scar, App State is ranked. The embarrassing loss for Scar is Tennessee and Missouri lol
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25753 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:18 am to
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Bad losses don’t matter to the CFP committee


I dont know how you can miss such an obvious point.

Good wins matter. The losses look the same. Bama is where they are because they lack the good wins.

Why is this important?
Because it encourages better scheduling. And that is better for college football and college football fans.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18223 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:25 am to
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Bad losses don’t matter to the CFP committee
I agree. Uga's wins outweighed their loss to USCe when it came to comparing them and Bama, even with Bama's road win over the same USCe team to consider.

Bama will not finish the season with a quality win. Best path is to hold out Tua to heal, win the next 2 games with a backup QB, win big over Auburn with Tua.

They also need Big 12 and Pac 12 champs to have 2+ losses and LSU to win the SEC. Then, I think they have a good shot at the playoffs.

But, honestly, they had their shot... hurt QB or not. Not a championship level defense and abysmal STs outside of the return game. 11-1 and a NY6 bowl berth would be a great year. Highlights how spoiled Bama fans have become that that is a down year.

2020 will be worse. But. 2021 should be a very good team. Especially with all the talented true freshmen contributing this year on defense.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:58 am to
This committee has gone full eye test. Dont expect any consistency to be identifiable with best win worst loss sos etc.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105445 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:27 am to
LSU just needs to worry about beating Uga in the championship because the committee won’t be taking a two loss SEC champion, and your chances would be hurt with one loss and no SEC title. You all are not Bama and get a pass.
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