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re: Perfect CFB system that would never happen
Posted on 9/6/19 at 9:15 am to diddlydawg7
Posted on 9/6/19 at 9:15 am to diddlydawg7
I don't mind having a weaker opponent or two. It benefits the weaker school and basically funds their athletic programs to go pay big name schools. Eliminating that only hurts the small teams, not the big teams since everyone is doing it anyways.
As for the rest I'd be cool with it.
As for the rest I'd be cool with it.
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Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:24 am to Ccslimm
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win your conference
Why does a regional group of teams somehow deserve something on the national level?
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:28 am to Teague
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The only reason that so many people want a larger playoff is because they know it gives their team a better shot of getting in.
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t's not about getting a true champion. It's about fandom.
:kige:
NCAA basketball was best at 16, but now it has totally devalued the regular season with games made meaningless by everybody getting a participation ribbon. Going past 2 in football is flirting with trouble. Going past 4 is asking for trouble.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:32 am to diddlydawg7
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Perfect CFB system that would never happen
it should never happen because auto-bids are utterly retarded. What if you have a team with 5 losses upset someone in the CCG, why in the world should they get to go to the playoffs? And if G5 people want a seat at hte table they need to schedule legit competition. 2017 UCF that tried to pretend they were some kind of national champ, the best team they palyed in the regular season was a tossup between memphis and USF. Let that sink in. Why should that team be rewarded? Give UGA the same schedule and we're 12-0 too.
The playoffs are fine as they are and have gotten it right every time. If after 12 regular season games plus a conference championship game weekend you are only ranked 8th, sorry but you don't deserve a shot. You've clearly lost at least twice already or have played absolutely nobody, both of which are your own fault.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:41 am to Irons Puppet
Why should the Big 12 or Pac 12 mean anything if they are all shitty? If the Pac 12 cant field a top 8 team, their championship should be the end of the line.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:49 am to AggieDub14
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Just pick the top 8 teams.
Because we don't know who the top 8 teams are.
If we did, we wouldn't need a playoff.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:59 am to diddlydawg7
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-8 team playoff
Consists of:
-SEC champion
-ACC champion
-B1G champion
-B12 Champion
-PAC champion
-Best Group of 5 team
-At Large
-At Large
Not enough, should be 24 as mandated by the by laws for every NCAA sport. Do not give me the BS it is too hard on the players, then why does every level but 1 does it?
Use the NY6 and CFPCG hosts for round 3 and above. Play the first 8 games at home sites, top 8 get bye as seeded, conference teams can not play each other until the round of 8.
Go back to 11 games (will never happen) Play the CCG to determine the conference winner
From Last Year it would have been auto Qualifiers
ACC Clemson
AAC UCF
Big 12 OU
B1G tOSU
CUSA UAB
MAC NIU
MWC Fresno
PAC Washington
SEC Alabama
SBC App St
Independent Notre Dame
The bracket based off the CFP rankings would have been
Utah vs West Virginia, winner plays Alabama
Appalachian St vs Washington, winner plays UCF
Washington St vs Texas A&M, winner plays Oklahoma
Penn St vs Fresno, winner plays Georgia
Texas vs Mississippi St, winner plays Clemson
Florida vs NIU, winner plays Michigan
Kentucky vs Syracuse, winner plays Notre Dame
LSU vs UAB, winner plays Ohio State
Posted on 9/6/19 at 12:02 pm to sms151t
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should be 24
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he bracket based off the CFP rankings would have been
look me in the eye with a straight face and give me one good GD reason why northern illinois, that went 7-5 in the regular season wtihout a single win of note deserved a shot to be national champions.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 12:13 pm to WG_Dawg
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look me in the eye with a straight face and give me one good GD reason why northern illinois, that went 7-5 in the regular season wtihout a single win of note deserved a shot to be national champions.
They won their CCG. They did exactly what they were asked to do.
Your turn.
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/6/19 at 12:23 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I don't mind having a weaker opponent or two. It benefits the weaker school and basically funds their athletic programs to go pay big name schools.
Is the point to determine the best team or to fund weaker schools?
Posted on 9/6/19 at 12:36 pm to StopRobot
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weaker schools
There are 130 teams in FBS, all vying for the same championship. You can't simply cut out over half of them every single year and say that they are playing for the same championship. Should FBS be reduced to the P5 teams? Probably, but they're not.
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Is the point to determine the best team or to fund weaker schools?
But how about we make the point to give the top seeds a creampuff to play instead of a bye.
Personally, I don't believe there should be any at large berths at all. Just the P5 champions and the champs of the highest rated 3 G5 conferences based off of SOS.
If you want to get into the playoffs, you'd better fight like hell to win your conference.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 12:38 pm to WG_Dawg
If you make conf. champs an auto participant, then more teams will do their best to get there instead of saying "oh well, why bother?".
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 9/6/19 at 12:42 pm to WG_Dawg
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it should never happen because auto-bids are utterly retarded.
Works just fine for the NFL...
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:30 pm to sms151t
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Not enough, should be 24 as mandated by the by laws for every NCAA sport.
#1 the should split FBS football into 2 levels then have a 4 team playoff for the P5's and a 4 team playoff for the G5's
#2 unlike most NCAA sports FBS football means putting 50,000 to 100,000 on the road for each game. Lot easier to do when when moving maybe 5,000 for an FCS playoff game.
The problem with going past 2 or 4 it is all about dealing teams back in that have no place because they lost somewhere or scheduled poorly in the regular season. NCAA extends most seasons with extended playoff for the revenue. NCAA no longer controls football and they may lose other sports for this very reason.
Regular season $$$$ goes to the schools
Post season $$$$ goes to the NCAA
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:37 pm to AggieDub14
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Why should the Big 12 or Pac 12 mean anything if they are all shitty? If the Pac 12 cant field a top 8 team, their championship should be the end of the line.
Nobody knows if they are shitty compared to those teams who make the playoffs. If we knew for sure that the team is better than the system makes sense. Look at 2017, AU beat 2 of the teams by double digits and yet they were considered inferior to those teams two weeks later. That is why the committee doesn't need to decide, it needs to be decided on the field. Thus, Conference Champions.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:46 pm to diddlydawg7
The playoff has ruined college football. There are only a few super teams and everyone else. Once they changed it to the same competition model as every other sport, the Pareto distribution effect happened because no one is regulating the sport like the NFL or the NBA does.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:52 pm to TailbackU
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The playoff has ruined college football.
If the Pac 12 and Big 10 get shut out again this year, you will see major changes. That would cover about 50% of the TVs in the country.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:16 pm to Irons Puppet
Fan bases are already starting to atrophy and the concentration of a few power teams only hastens that phenomenon. Everybody is trying to treat the symptom, by improving tailgating, Stadium AV equipment, student lounges, selling beer etc. But they're not addressing the root cause of the problem.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:17 pm to diddlydawg7
I don't like it. Not for college football.
How about we take the top 2 teams? Oh yeah we tried that. It actually worked fairly well. We almost always got the top 2 teams.
How about top 4? Oh yeah we're doing that now and so far the top 4 teams for every season have been the teams that should be there.
Top 8? How are you going to feel when one day the #8 team is the top team? That's going to suck and this will look really stupid.
News for you. The best team in basketball is almost never the winner of the tourney. How much more diluted would football be if we used this model? It would be terrible and not worth watching as a whole.
How about we take the top 2 teams? Oh yeah we tried that. It actually worked fairly well. We almost always got the top 2 teams.
How about top 4? Oh yeah we're doing that now and so far the top 4 teams for every season have been the teams that should be there.
Top 8? How are you going to feel when one day the #8 team is the top team? That's going to suck and this will look really stupid.
News for you. The best team in basketball is almost never the winner of the tourney. How much more diluted would football be if we used this model? It would be terrible and not worth watching as a whole.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:18 pm to sms151t
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Your turn.
they lost 5 of the 12 games they played.
check mate.
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