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re: Are Bama fans even scared of UGA at this point?
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:31 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:31 pm to DawgsLife
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The games with bama are a lot closer.
I don't know that you play them often enough to judge that fairly. The 2012 SEC championship game was decided by 4 points and tbh, UGA should've won that one and both teams would've beaten ND.
As an outside observer, the difference between Richt and Smart isn't much (and that's not an insult -- half your fanbase acts like you weren't any good under Richt when you very much were most years. He just ultimately failed at getting UGA a National Championship).
Richt also just had a longer tenure to produce mediocre seasons/disappointing teams. If Smart stays around as long he'll have some of those too. I think the question for UGA is whether or not Smart can bring home a national title where Richt couldn't.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 6:35 pm
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:43 pm to Prof
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don't know that you play them often enough to judge that fairly.
Bama destroyed richt in 2008 and 2015. Unlike 2017 and 2018, 2012 was not as close as the score indicated. That’s 5 games in 10 seasons.
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half your fanbase acts like you weren't any good under Richt when you very much were most years.
The facts prove Uga struggled just to finish ranked in richts final 10 seasons. That’s why he was fired. Had he still been producing teams like 2017 and 2018, he would still be our coach, but even his best teams weren’t as good as our past 2.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:22 am to Prof
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As an outside observer, the difference between Richt and Smart isn't much
Sorry but it is.We didn't fire the Mark Richt who coached from '01 to '07.We fired the one who was clueless when it came to competing with Urban at UF and Saban @ Bama and who was getting killed on the recruiting trail the last half of his career.His '10 to '13 classes were one of the worst 4 year stretches we've had recruiting since Ray Goff.We were also continually down 5 to 15 scholarship players almost every year.His roster mgt was horrible.You saw what he did at Miami and the condition he left the program in, correct?
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tenure to produce mediocre seasons/disappointing teams
Those "mediocre" teams weren't some type of fluke or accident.
He was completely unprepared when it came replacing key members of the team when they left the program.
Kirby might have some "mediocre" years if he stays as long as CMR but it won't because we don't have a full roster or elite players who are going to replace other elite players who leave.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:28 am
Posted on 8/22/19 at 6:57 am to Prof
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As an outside observer, the difference between Richt and Smart isn't much (and that's not an insult -- half your fanbase acts like you weren't any good under Richt when you very much were most years. He just ultimately failed at getting UGA a National Championship).
Richt also just had a longer tenure to produce mediocre seasons/disappointing teams. If Smart stays around as long he'll have some of those too. I think the question for UGA is whether or not Smart can bring home a national title where Richt couldn't.
There's definitely a chunk of fans that kind of dismiss Richt a little too flippantly, but he wasn't fired for not winning a national championship... He was fired because his best years were clearly behind him. His first 5 years in the SEC were about as strong as you could ask for and no one wanted him gone. From there it was a constant struggle for him to effectively manage the roster and generally a series of disappointing finishes involving losses to teams that frequently shouldn't have happened. If 2012 hadn't gone down the way it had, he'd have likely been let go sooner... But in hindsight, it's clear that in the back half of his tenure, our LOS recruiting had dwindled to the point that we simply weren't going to be able to break into that elite level on any consistent basis.
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