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Although old news, some insight into the Sherrill vs NCAA lawsuit.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:33 pm
As most know, the NCAA settled a lawsuit a few weeks ago that Jackie Sherrill had filed against the NCAA all the way back in 2004. He was once again cleared of any wrong doing.
The lead attorney for the Ncaa was an attorney from Oxford, Ms. How interesting.
Jackie was cleared of any wrong doing back in 2003 by the Ncaa but they still put Miss State on 4 years probation. Jackie claimed that the lead investigator Rich Johanningmeier was twisting facts during the investigation to get the outcome he wanted and smeared his name to stop him from ever coaching again.
VIA USA TODAY:
The former college football coach states in his lawsuit that the governing body of college sports “twisted, fabricated, orchestrated, and falsified the statements of the witnesses” in order to bring charges against him and destroy his career.
“The NCAA does not want to admit that they’re wrong,” Sherrill told USA TODAY Sports.
So here we are 15 years later and after a day and a half of witness testimony (Johanningmeier was forced to show up) it was not going well for the Ncaa and the Ncaa attorneys approached Sherrills attorneys and offered a settlement.
For those who don’t know, during the investigation, it became apparent to Sherrill that some bullshite was going on so he hired a private investigator to follow Ncaa investigator Rich Johanningmeier only to discover he was spending nights at an Ole Miss female boosters house lol. Well that sure was convenient and the evidence apparently came out in court.
What started this investigation according to the Ncaa were internet rumors etc (obviously by a party who wanted him gone and we know which fan base and boosters were behind it) and they were successful.
The Ncaa knew we had the goods and stonewalled for 15 years I guess hoping he would die before going to court. I would love to know what the settlement was but I know this much, the Ncaa does not settle if they have honest evidence.
The lead attorney for the Ncaa was an attorney from Oxford, Ms. How interesting.
Jackie was cleared of any wrong doing back in 2003 by the Ncaa but they still put Miss State on 4 years probation. Jackie claimed that the lead investigator Rich Johanningmeier was twisting facts during the investigation to get the outcome he wanted and smeared his name to stop him from ever coaching again.
VIA USA TODAY:
The former college football coach states in his lawsuit that the governing body of college sports “twisted, fabricated, orchestrated, and falsified the statements of the witnesses” in order to bring charges against him and destroy his career.
“The NCAA does not want to admit that they’re wrong,” Sherrill told USA TODAY Sports.
So here we are 15 years later and after a day and a half of witness testimony (Johanningmeier was forced to show up) it was not going well for the Ncaa and the Ncaa attorneys approached Sherrills attorneys and offered a settlement.
For those who don’t know, during the investigation, it became apparent to Sherrill that some bullshite was going on so he hired a private investigator to follow Ncaa investigator Rich Johanningmeier only to discover he was spending nights at an Ole Miss female boosters house lol. Well that sure was convenient and the evidence apparently came out in court.
What started this investigation according to the Ncaa were internet rumors etc (obviously by a party who wanted him gone and we know which fan base and boosters were behind it) and they were successful.
The Ncaa knew we had the goods and stonewalled for 15 years I guess hoping he would die before going to court. I would love to know what the settlement was but I know this much, the Ncaa does not settle if they have honest evidence.
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:53 pm to MullenBoys
Litigants settle all the time with evidence in their favor.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:57 pm to MullenBoys
The NCAA always settles and throws the red headed step child under the bus.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:58 pm to MetryMauler
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Litigants settle all the time with evidence in their favor.
Yes, but 95% are settled BEFORE trial.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:58 pm to MullenBoys
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What started this investigation according to the Ncaa were internet rumors etc (obviously by a party who wanted him gone and we know which fan base and boosters were behind it) and they were successful.
We've been trying this tactic with Dabo for about 5 years now but we aren't getting anywhere. Any Ole Miss fans wanna give us some tips? Would be much appreciated.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:10 am to CrabInMyShoeMouth
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The NCAA always settles and throws the red headed step child under the bus.
The Ncaa wanted this thing settled several times but Sherrill never gave in because he wanted jurors to see the evidence. Smart move because the trial never finished, the Ncaa knew they were fk’d after the evidence came out and Sherrill likely got 10 times the money offered lol.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 12:20 am
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:12 am to MullenBoys
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Rich Johanningmeier
I hope this frickstick burns in hell. Dirty arse NCAA "cop".
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:15 am to MullenBoys
The NCAA is the CNN of student/athlete organizations.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:15 am to Rip N Lip
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Rich Johanningmeier
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I hope this frickstick burns in hell. Dirty arse NCAA "cop".
Wasn’t he the one who turned back the odometer on a used car a Bama player was driving?
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:21 am to MullenBoys
Now I actually haven't heard that one, but it would not surprise me.
ETA: Or if I've heard it, I forgot about it. So much wrong with that case, beginning with our shitty Compliance people at the time. Ooof
ETA: Or if I've heard it, I forgot about it. So much wrong with that case, beginning with our shitty Compliance people at the time. Ooof
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 12:25 am
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:26 am to Rip N Lip
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Now I actually haven't heard that one, but it would not surprise me.
I am 99.9% sure it was him. I remember the internet boards (long before we have this many) where their was a big deal about an odometer being turned back on a used car as to make it appear it was in newer shape when bought. I kid you not. Not sure if it was the fact he falsely reported the odometer or what but Bama fan more in tune with that will read this and explain more than I know about it. But he should have been fired over that.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 12:28 am
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:33 am to MullenBoys
I've tried to repress most of the decade that was 1997-2006. Those were dark days for the program. 
Makes this tear we're on right now that much sweeter though.
Makes this tear we're on right now that much sweeter though.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:42 am to Rip N Lip
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I've tried to repress most of the decade that was 1997-2006. Those were dark days for the program. Makes this tear we're on right now that much sweeter though.
I hear you. Wish we had that kind of success but I am as much a big MSU fan as you are an Alabama fan so I understand the passion!
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:53 am to MullenBoys
My last post but I love this via 247 Sports report.
On October 27th, 2004, the NCAA committee on infractions handed down their long awaited public report in their case against Mississippi State. An exhaustive investigation fueled by internet rumor and talk radio callers finally came to a close. While the findings of fact fell well short of the projected "walking death penalty" some "insiders" hinted at, the damage to Mississippi State and the reputation of former Bulldog head football coach Jackie Sherrill was done.
Earlier today, Sherrill got a measure of redemption as attorneys for the NCAA struck a settlement with the veteran coach and his legal team headed by Tupelo, Mississippi based attorneys Jim and Rachel Waide. Sherrill's personal attorney Wayne Ferrell was scheduled to appear as a witness in the case, but that testimony will no longer be necessary as the case has been settled.
"I am extremely happy to have this behind us," Sherrill said in telephone conversation with Genespage.com. "The main thing you want in something like that is to be vindicated and to be exonerated and that's what happened today. I don't know much time and money they spent trying to keep this thing from going forward, but it took them a day and a half of testimony to get it over with."
Former NCAA investigator Rich Johanningmeier was a key figure in the accusations against Sherrill. It is important to note that the allegations brought against Sherrill in the NCAA's infractions report were not a part of the final report as the committee on infractions felt there was insufficient evidence to support the charges.
On October 27th, 2004, the NCAA committee on infractions handed down their long awaited public report in their case against Mississippi State. An exhaustive investigation fueled by internet rumor and talk radio callers finally came to a close. While the findings of fact fell well short of the projected "walking death penalty" some "insiders" hinted at, the damage to Mississippi State and the reputation of former Bulldog head football coach Jackie Sherrill was done.
Earlier today, Sherrill got a measure of redemption as attorneys for the NCAA struck a settlement with the veteran coach and his legal team headed by Tupelo, Mississippi based attorneys Jim and Rachel Waide. Sherrill's personal attorney Wayne Ferrell was scheduled to appear as a witness in the case, but that testimony will no longer be necessary as the case has been settled.
"I am extremely happy to have this behind us," Sherrill said in telephone conversation with Genespage.com. "The main thing you want in something like that is to be vindicated and to be exonerated and that's what happened today. I don't know much time and money they spent trying to keep this thing from going forward, but it took them a day and a half of testimony to get it over with."
Former NCAA investigator Rich Johanningmeier was a key figure in the accusations against Sherrill. It is important to note that the allegations brought against Sherrill in the NCAA's infractions report were not a part of the final report as the committee on infractions felt there was insufficient evidence to support the charges.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:54 am to MullenBoys
Lets bring Sherrill home. I'm down. Love that dude
Posted on 8/20/19 at 2:02 am to MullenBoys
Jackie got fricked twice by in state rivals using the NCAA to do their dirty work. Most screwed over HC of all time. 
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 2:03 am
Posted on 8/20/19 at 2:25 am to Dr RC
Never forget when ole Jackie turned a bull into a steer before State played the Long Horns. He really must have not liked texas
Posted on 8/20/19 at 3:04 am to Rip N Lip
Damn right. That bastard was in on the screwing of Alabama. Yes I said screwing, they broke every rule they had and some laws too.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 5:26 am to MullenBoys
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NCAA settled a lawsuit
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Cleared of any wrongdoing
Not how that works
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:26 am to LegendOfCobb
How did you quote the story and somehow not manage to read it?
It does not assert that the settlement cleared him.
It says Sherrill was cleared in 2003. His lawsuit was about how the guy running the investigation conducted himself. Sherrill was almost certainly right. Johanningmeier was also the guy that ruined the Miami hookers and blow investigation and the NCAA has settled other suits based on his behavior.
He was a guy that decided someone was guilty and then went looking for a crime even if it meant creating one. After Miami the NCAA finally saw the light, he was forced to retire, and they pretty much rebuilt their enforcement staff from the ground up.
It does not assert that the settlement cleared him.
It says Sherrill was cleared in 2003. His lawsuit was about how the guy running the investigation conducted himself. Sherrill was almost certainly right. Johanningmeier was also the guy that ruined the Miami hookers and blow investigation and the NCAA has settled other suits based on his behavior.
He was a guy that decided someone was guilty and then went looking for a crime even if it meant creating one. After Miami the NCAA finally saw the light, he was forced to retire, and they pretty much rebuilt their enforcement staff from the ground up.
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