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re: Opinions will another 5 loss season get Gus fired.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:26 am to Leto II
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:26 am to Leto II
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Those are the teams on our schedule and that's not changing anytime soon that I can see.
No its not likely going to. But IMO Auburn should be campaigning harder and louder about changing up the schedules to make things more fair.
According to S&P+, here are how many times since 2012 each SEC team has played a Top 3 ranked SOS nationally:
7- Auburn (2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018)
2- Alabama (2015, 2016)
2- Arkansas (2014, 2017)
2- Tennessee (2013, 2018)
1- Florida (2014)
1- LSU (2018)
1- Ole Miss (2012)
1- Missouri (2012)
0- Georgia
0- Kentucky
0- Mississippi State
0- South Carolina
0- Texas A&M
0- Vanderbilt
That's a problem. Keep in mind Bama's SOS gets a huge boost most years by playing in the SEC CG as well as the Playoff, so if there was a way to just look at Regular Season SOS the numbers would likely even look more out of line across the board.
Auburn has a legit gripe with the league about scheduling imbalance. No one can deny the obvious facts displayed above that inherent scheduling puts Auburn at a significant disadvantage. Auburn is guaranteed a Top 3 toughest schedule in the nation every year and there is nothing they can do about it. No one else has that uphill battle to climb. And sadly for Gus and Auburn, 2019 looks like the toughest one yet.
If I were Auburn, I'd do the following:
1. Petition hard and loud about changing up the schedules to make things more fair... particularly I'd ask to move to the East so that you could get rid of having to play LSU every year.
2. Stop scheduling tough programs like Clemson and start scheduling known losers OOC. Auburn already plays a tough enough SOS, there is no reason to kill yourself by playing a ranked OOC opponent every season like Clemson, Washington, Oregon, etc.
Auburn should lock in home-and-home series with Duke, Wake Forest, Indiana, Purdue, Kansas, Virginia, Colorado, etc.
All of these programs are capable of having a decent year from time to time but we're talking one Top 10 finish every 20 years or so. Chances are it would ease up the schedule a bit.
You can fire your coach if you want, but whoever comes in is going to have to face the same gauntlet. Until Auburn gets that issue resolved, every coach will have to face the same thing.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 11:28 am
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:49 am to BHMKyle
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Auburn has a legit gripe with the league about scheduling imbalance. No one can deny the obvious facts displayed above that inherent scheduling puts Auburn at a significant disadvantage.
Auburn wants to maintain their historic rivalries with: Alabama, Georgia, Florida and Tennessee, so they really shouldn't open their pie-holes about tough schedules.
Why is it that when LSU fans were making the same statements before 2012, when Florida was frequently in the top 5, the rest of the conference laughed?
Therefore, in order to maintain consistency...
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 3:34 pm to BHMKyle
This was a good take however there are some issues
We have to schedule harder OOC teams. The last time we didnt and had a great season our OOC schedule was used as a reason the 2004 Auburn squad was the first and only team in SEC history to finish undefeated and not play for a national championship. We were told our OOC schedule was too weak. Since then we have been scheduling at least 1 big time OOC opponent.
Also its not just about Ws and Ls. Its how we look in the Ls. Its running it up the gut 17 straight times after a 1st down vs LSU. Its about someone on staff not able to count to 5, costing MR Football in Alabama to lose a redshirt season and transfer. Its about our offense not showing up for half a season at a time. Its about stocking up on WRs boosting recruiting rankings. Its about being paid top 5 money to consistently go 8-5. Its about bringing in top 10 talent only to just suck at player development. Its about an 8 year old little girl who hates football calling out what play is coming the second they lineup.
Gus is a good guy and his players love him but a lot of our fans are getting tired of being told "the future is bright" and that "no doubt we had an excellent week of practice" only to see the same results over and over and over
Also anyone who thinks Auburn will be better in 2020 has no clue what they are talking about. 99% chance the OTs who will start in 2020 are not yet on campus. We have signed 759 OGs, a few "tweeners," and like 5 OTs over the last 4 classes. One of those OTs is no longer on campus. Two have never taken a meaningful snap after being on campus for years, and the other two were low rated backups to backups.
Unless a miricle happens its doubtful we have a winning record in 2020. That is if Gus even makes it THAT far.
We have to schedule harder OOC teams. The last time we didnt and had a great season our OOC schedule was used as a reason the 2004 Auburn squad was the first and only team in SEC history to finish undefeated and not play for a national championship. We were told our OOC schedule was too weak. Since then we have been scheduling at least 1 big time OOC opponent.
Also its not just about Ws and Ls. Its how we look in the Ls. Its running it up the gut 17 straight times after a 1st down vs LSU. Its about someone on staff not able to count to 5, costing MR Football in Alabama to lose a redshirt season and transfer. Its about our offense not showing up for half a season at a time. Its about stocking up on WRs boosting recruiting rankings. Its about being paid top 5 money to consistently go 8-5. Its about bringing in top 10 talent only to just suck at player development. Its about an 8 year old little girl who hates football calling out what play is coming the second they lineup.
Gus is a good guy and his players love him but a lot of our fans are getting tired of being told "the future is bright" and that "no doubt we had an excellent week of practice" only to see the same results over and over and over
Also anyone who thinks Auburn will be better in 2020 has no clue what they are talking about. 99% chance the OTs who will start in 2020 are not yet on campus. We have signed 759 OGs, a few "tweeners," and like 5 OTs over the last 4 classes. One of those OTs is no longer on campus. Two have never taken a meaningful snap after being on campus for years, and the other two were low rated backups to backups.
Unless a miricle happens its doubtful we have a winning record in 2020. That is if Gus even makes it THAT far.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:52 pm to BHMKyle
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BHMKyle
quote:You are usually pretty fair, but those are some very misleading numbers.
No its not likely going to. But IMO Auburn should be campaigning harder and louder about changing up the schedules to make things more fair.
According to S&P+, here are how many times since 2012 each SEC team has played a Top 3 ranked SOS nationally:
Here is the final SOS of Alabama and AU each year since 2009 according to TeamRankings. Keep in mind that AU has the advantage of playing Bama each year. Bama has had the toughest SOS in the country 5 times, AU 3; top three 7 times in 10 years, AU 4 times. Bama's easiest sched has been #7, AU had had 15, 37, 27 and 24. That's with AU getting to play Bama each year.
18: Ala 1, AU 7
17: Ala 6, AU 1
16: Ala 1, AU 7
15: Ala 1, AU 15
14: Ala 2, AU 1
13: Ala 7, AU 3
12: Ala 1, AU 37
11: Ala 3, AU 27
10: Ala 6, AU 1
09: Ala 1, AU 24
AU's has been tough but, Bama has played the hardest schedule in the country during this dynasty. They have the hardest schedule in history and 3 or so of the top 10 hardest sched in history. Again, your post was misleading.
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