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re: When someone says “football program in downtown Atlanta” what do y’all think of?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:29 am to pvilleguru
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:29 am to pvilleguru
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I actually thought of Atlanta United first
You would have to be from Mars if you think Atlanta United is the first team you think of.
I get being a fan (which, clearly, you are), but not a single person who isn't soccer fan-boying to the max would say a 7th tier league team that's less than 36 months old would be their first thought when asked "football program in downtown Atlanta."
That said, Go United.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:41 am to ATLabama
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With that said, Geoff Collins is an unbelievable recruiter and a good coach. I can see him being somewhat of a thorn in the side of UGA's side on the back-half of their recruiting class.
Prior to CPJ, they used to get a lot of really solid talent/classes from the ATL area. I can see that happening again if they show a modicum of progress.
It isn't going to happen. I have a lot of Tech family and they are convinced good times are on the horizon. UGA will make sure that doesnt happen.
It takes a lot more than silly bro gimmicks to bring football success. In Georgia, UGA is the flagship. We control the Board of Regents which runs the academic side of things. There is a reason Tech isnt allowed to expand its curriculum much. We wont allow it. However, we were able to get engineering majors added at UGA. That, my friends is pure power. We also control the political machine (Governor and Legislature) as well as most of the media in state.
If you look back over the last 40 years Tech's athletic success is fleeting. Why? The moment they re-jigger things to start to make a run, the Red and Black Machine cranks up and shuts it down with the quickness.
The last example was when Ol'Paul Johnson thought he was going to go on a run. We were down and they arguably had the better team. Suddenly they were in trouble with the NCAA and the media turned on Johnson for his personality and recruiting quirks.
They may win a battle or two along the way, but the moment they actually look like they can contend on a yearly basis it will suddenly disappear. That is the way of things.
There is more to football when UGA says "We Run this State!".
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:43 am to ClemsonRules
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Answering the question...when I think of football in downtown Atlanta
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I think of UGA
lol
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:03 am to BoerneAg
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I mean, I don't think of UGA, if that's what you're after.
Well, UGA’s sort of not in downtown Atlanta, soooooooooo.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:50 am to tylerdurden24
I honestly think of Alabama since they pretty much own Atlanta. Coach Saban's record there speaks for itself.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:05 am to tylerdurden24
At least they didn't shout out The Varsity. That place blows major arse
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:07 am to GAAtty70
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In Georgia, UGA is the flagship. We control the Board of Regents which runs the academic side of things.
Hyperbole or not, if even a modicum off what you says is true (and, judging by endowment levels, it's not), then it's past pathetic they've won a national championship in football more recently, been to Final Four more recently, and have been, by and large (save 2007), a better baseball program.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 10:09 am
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:41 am to ATLabama
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In Georgia, UGA is the flagship. We control the Board of Regents which runs the academic side of things.
Hyperbole or not, if even a modicum off what you says is true (and, judging by endowment levels, it's not), then it's past pathetic they've won a national championship in football more recently, been to Final Four more recently, and have been, by and large (save 2007), a better baseball program.
You and I both know that football is the only sport that truly matters. Besides, their 1990 fake, split MNC was a total fluke of scheduling. Even with that it is considered the worst National Champion pair in history.
The proof of what I am talking about is the stability of the programs. It would be hard to keep them from having a good to great year every so often, but they are unable to sustain any success over time. That keeps the fan base small and negatively affects the cash flow into the program. Trust me when I say this is a long game that has been played since the 60s when Tech and Bobby Dodd's arrogance led them to leave the SEC and Dodd retired. Dooley came in around the same time and the push was on to make sure Georgia never really had to worry about in state competition ever again.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 10:47 am to GAAtty70
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total fluke of scheduling.
1980 UG SOS: 51st
1990 GT SOS: 28th
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:30 am to GAAtty70
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If you look back over the last 40 years Tech's athletic success is fleeting. Why? The moment they re-jigger things to start to make a run, the Red and Black Machine cranks up and shuts it down with the quickness.
Judging by the fact that GT has a pair of Final Fours and a Natty in the last 30 years while UGA has neither, it might be high time to refocus all that power the Red and Black has.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:49 am to UAtide11
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Judging by the fact that GT has a pair of Final Fours and a Natty in the last 30 years while UGA has neither, it might be high time to refocus all that power the Red and Black has.
You enjoyed snacking on paint chips as a kid, didnt you? The point is that we have managed to all but eliminate our in state rival, a heritage CFB program from any real ability to compete on a year to year basis. For all of Bama's bravado and hubris, you havent accomplished that.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:50 am to UAtide11
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Judging by the fact that GT has a pair of Final Fours and a Natty in the last 30 years while UGA has neither, it might be high time to refocus all that power the Red and Black has.
The rise of Atlanta (and subsequent diversification of school interest) is likely detrimental to UGA from a purely sports perspective.
If you took a straw poll, yes, Georgia is likely going to have the most "fans" in the metro area.
But the landscape is far different than what it was in the 80's to mid-90's: the city is the melting pot of almost the entirety of southern schools.
Drive down any neighborhood in Buckhead, the Highlands, O4W, Inman Park, EAV, Vinings, Brookhaven, Chamblee, you name it - you'll see different color flags and mailboxes painting the street a variety of different colors.
A few other schools really stick out, namely: Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, FSU, South Carolina.
Honestly, it's what makes the city the capital of CFB - the bars on Saturday are a street festival of different suds and different color shirts.
UGA is a mirror to Texas and Texas A&M deal with in the sense that, in their biggest "hub," they're a big dog amongst many - Texas deals with beau coup OU folks in Dallas, the Houston Ags have an influx of Tigahs... where as in more rural areas, they dominate.
UGA at one point did, "run this state," but if you take a look at data points of alumni saturation on linkedin, UGA grads are diluted with a myriad of the aforementioned.
Quite plainly, it could be a good thing. A rising Tide lifts all boats.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:54 am to UAtide11
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Judging by the fact that GT has a pair of Final Fours and a Natty in the last 30 years while UGA has neither, it might be high time to refocus all that power the Red and Black has.
You enjoyed snacking on paint chips as a kid, didnt you? The point is that we have managed to all but eliminate our in state rival, a heritage CFB program from any real ability to compete on a year to year basis. For all of Bama's bravado and hubris, you havent accomplished that.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:55 am to GAAtty70
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You enjoyed snacking on paint chips as a kid, didnt you? The point is that we have managed to all but eliminate our in state rival, a heritage CFB program from any real ability to compete on a year to year basis. For all of Bama's bravado and hubris, you havent accomplished that.
Iron Bowl, last 5 meetings: Alabama leads, 4-1
GA-GT, last 5 meetings: Georgia leads, 3-2
Would hardly call a 1 game over .500 lead in your proclaimed, "end all, be all" of collegiate sports, "total elimination."
Posted on 6/14/19 at 11:59 am to SmokeTide
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Funny picture... Georgia Tech is dangerous football program in a P5 in a metro area. It only takes the right coaching staff to figure out.
Kinda like Vandy, right?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:07 pm to SparkyDaHound
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Tech ?
Nerds : 1990, 1952, 1928, 1917
UGA : 1980
Three wins. Nerds are 3-15 vs us in the last 18 years, and let’s face it, it’s only gonna get worse for them.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:24 pm to tylerdurden24
Georgia State, since it's actually located in Downtown Atlanta?
Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:26 pm to ATLabama
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The rise of Atlanta (and subsequent diversification of school interest) is likely detrimental to UGA from a purely sports perspective.
You win. This is the most ignorant, and blatantly false, statement I’ve ever seen on this board. I don’t know what organ you use to derive judgement, but you need an implant.
The rise and diversification of the Atlanta population has substantially increased the UGA fan base, and strengthened UGA athletics as a whole. And the brand has never been nearly as popular as it is today.
I personally know of hundreds of cases where alum of other schools have moved to Atlanta and enthusiastically sent their kids to UGA for a great education and college experience. I know of many, many cases where those same parents attend UGA games and cheer for the Dawgs. UGA is also bringing in athletes from all over the country, further strengthening the brand.
Your premise might be wishful thinking, but the growth and diversification of Atlanta has done nothing but help UGA athletics, just the opposite of your “thinking”.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 12:51 pm to tylerdurden24
A program with more NC’s than the program in Athens?
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