re: When does Ole Miss pay State back ?

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you don't believe the Spirit narrative that Saban refused to cooperate with the NCAA. It doesn't work that way.

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That's always my favorite part

Would any reasonable Bama fan be willing to tell us if Bama has a Compliance Dept.? Why would they if Saban can just tell the NCAA to pound sand whenever he wants

Wait you think everyone has to cooperate with the NCAA or face harsh penalties? Use your head here. UNC?? Why has nothing happened? Bc the won't cooperate. Mizzou? Slammed. Why? They cooperated.

If the NCAA comes and says "Hey we wanna talk to players x, y, and z" Saban has every right to say nope. His players don't have to talk to anybody. Period.

And again I'll say, I have never, nor does the majority of the OM fan base say its all bc of state. We did what we did. Our guys could've done a million things different to avoid this. HOWEVER, State had a hand in it. It's pathetic to say otherwise.

Side note, I can't stand Chuck or Yancy. If i read them then I'd always be under the impression we were about to take over the frickin world

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Wait you think everyone has to cooperate with the NCAA or face harsh penalties? Use your head here. UNC?? Why has nothing happened? Bc the won't cooperate. Mizzou? Slammed. Why? They cooperated.

If the NCAA comes and says "Hey we wanna talk to players x, y, and z" Saban has every right to say nope. His players don't have to talk to anybody. Period.

And again I'll say, I have never, nor does the majority of the OM fan base say its all bc of state. We did what we did. Our guys could've done a million things different to avoid this. HOWEVER, State had a hand in it. It's pathetic to say otherwise.

Side note, I can't stand Chuck or Yancy. If i read them then I'd always be under the impression we were about to take over the frickin world

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The only way State had a hand in it is that a kid Ole Miss paid ended up coming to State. He didn't want to talk, but was compelled to do so when his eligibility was at risk. All the stuff about Mullen and conspiracies are horseshite, so don't come over here and talk logic out of one side of your mouth, and then blame State out of the other side.

As for your comments about not having to talk to the NCAA, boy, I'm astounded at the level of stupidity. That's not how any of that works at all. The NCAA holds ultimate authority over its member institutions and can talk to whomever it wants, and take action when they don't have cooperation.

For your dislike of Chuck and Yancy, you sure are parroting their talking points almost verbatim.

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I am clearly talking to a retard

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The NCAA has basically said publicly that teams are better off simply not cooperating when being investigated. So, you're going to tell me that if a team isn't even the one being investigated they DO have to cooperate? Really? Thats where you're going with this?

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Wait you think everyone has to cooperate with the NCAA or face harsh penalties?

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to a degree, yes

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Use your head here. UNC??

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this is not an example for your argument

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Bc the won't cooperate

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explain how they didnt cooperate?

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If the NCAA comes and says "Hey we wanna talk to players x, y, and z" Saban has every right to say nope. His players don't have to talk to anybody. Period.

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This is absolutely incorrect and the fact you believe it, means I dont really need to reason any further

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UNC?? Why has nothing happened? Bc the won't coop

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Because they challenged the NCAA's jurisdiction regarding academic issues, and UNC won. Not only did UNC cooperate with the NCAA< they agreed with the NCAA's assessment of the fraudulent class. But, they claimed that the NCAA couldn't do anything about it.

By the way. nowhere does the NCAA state that Ole Miss cooperated. All that "exemplary cooperation" BS was in OM's response, not in the NCAA letters

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Leo didn't cut an immunity deal.

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The NCAA then threatened his eligibility based on what they had and offered immunity for him to talk.

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So you're saying Leo cut an immunity deal.

I know of very few if any Ole Miss fans in my fan group who think Mullen worked up some sort of devious plot to get OM using his own players. Right or wrong, our beef has been that it was obvious Lewis was paid by multiple schools yet OM is the only one that suffered penalty for it. And I don't give a damn about precedent. Carry on...

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Drebin

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I know the Ole Miss narrative is that Dan Mullen orchestrated the whole thing, came up with a crazy story about Rebel Rags, called the NCAA, and offered his guys up to cop to a story he created. Since you want to be logical, you know that entire narrative is horseshite, right?

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State’s punishment is having to pretend like Starkville is a great place to spend most of your Saturday’s in the fall.

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As long as it's better Oxford, you're saying..

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Yeah, I know. But still.

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I'd do the same