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Joe Doe Clemson Bama

Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:16 am
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:16 am
Link to first video. He makes a really good point on the first interception...

LINK
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:20 am to
I made the point over a week ago they had scouted us for a month or more and got ripped for it. We had to wade through Auburn, UGA and Oklahoma while they got a cake walk to our game. Hell they probably have been breaking us down since mid season.

And if you look at that so called schedule they have next year it'll be even worse.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 7:22 am
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:24 am to
No doubt Clemson’s schedule gave them an advantage. But the objective is to win the game and in doing so, you grab every advantage you have. to them for doing what they needed to do to win the game.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20069 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:33 am to
So he said the same thing I have been saying, but I get insulted for it.

BTW on the first INT, he is correct it is a pick play. Devonta is suppose to get in Mullens (Clemson CBs) way.

One thing he isn't highlighting enough is that pass was behind the reciever! That pass was incomplete even if Mullen didn't cheat inside. If the play is suppose to be a pick play getting Jeudy outside why throw the ball to the WR back shoulder??

Tua threw a bad ball there.

He was suppose to lead the WR, so the WR gets outside, Devonta picks the CB so he can't get outside and lets Jeudy run down the sideline for a TD.

That throw literally was a 14 point flip. Tua throws perfect, like his first two throws and we're up 7, not down 7.

When Mullens cheated in he GAVE us what we wanted. For him to be inside with no outside containment! If we had a better ball thrown that's an easy score and that's the reason Tua was saying "My fault, My bad". He knew he lew it with the throw.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:36 am to
Tua threw a bad ball even if the DB knew what was coming. The ball was well behind Jeudy and may not have been picked if it had been thrown in front of him. The poor throw also gave the DB a better angle to avoid being blocked.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20538 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:37 am to
Def a bad ball. The part that caught me by surprise is he knew the play.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3839 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:44 am to
quote:

why throw the ball to the WR back shoulder??


Part of me still thinks that the free rusher may have cut off the passing lane and he just threw it around him. The video in the other thread shows a solid look from behind center.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20069 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:44 am to
That DB literally walked into the trap. It was a perfect play call.

We just threw a bad ball.

Mullens can't make the tackle on Jeudy if Tua throws is well and Jeudy is down the sidline for a TD because they had the safety down on coverage inside.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20069 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Part of me still thinks that the free rusher may have cut off the passing lane and he just threw it around him. The video in the other thread shows a solid look from behind center.


Nah, you never throw back shoulder on a flat or short out Never.

Especially considering the play is constructed for Devonta to keep their DBs inside and allow Jeudy to get outside.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:48 am to
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Nah, you never throw back shoulder on a flat or short out Never.


Oh I'm not saying he "should've" thrown back shoulder. I'm saying the guy came free, he saw him and just let it rip to get it out of his hands.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20069 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:50 am to
quote:

I'm saying the guy came free, he saw him and just let it rip to


That's still not an excuse because he knows the play structure and development.

Tua knows you always lead a reciever running that kind of route. Hence why he quickly took blame for it.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7999 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:52 am to
"People try to say Tua got fooled on this play. There's nothing to get fooled on."

Then, as he continues the video, he observes that Smith whiffed on the block. Wyatt, in his video, thought Smith was probably supposed to slant in, as the primary receiver. In any event, nobody but you and a few others are blaming Tua.

LINK
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7999 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:55 am to
quote:

Tua knows you always lead a reciever running that kind of route. Hence why he quickly took blame for it.


backing up on it now. You've been saying that Tua didn't properly read the play after the snap. In fact, you said he may never be able to.

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20069 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:05 am to
quote:

backing up on it now. You've been saying that Tua didn't properly read the play after the snap. In fact, you said he may never be able to.


Man you aren't smart.

I was speaking of the second interception and then used examples from previous interceptions. Stop attempting to combine them because two different things occurred on those plays.

The first interception wasn't a coverage change, it was a blitz where the safety came down in man and Tua made a bad throw.

You literally don't know what you're talking about and just like being argumentative for the sake of it.

This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 8:07 am
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7999 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:07 am to
spin away Jose
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 8:10 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20069 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:17 am to
I have been consistent this entire time. I said on the second interception they confused Tua by changing coverages after the snap. I said they did this repeatedly to confuse Tua and used examples to support this. When asked about the first interception, I clearly stated it was a bad throw on a quick route. Clemson didn't really start doing their coverage changes till late first quarter.

You literally know nothing and can't tell the difference from coverages talk much understanding reads WR, TE or QBs make in reaction to them.

Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3839 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:21 am to
quote:

That's still not an excuse


There is no excuse and I'm not trying to make one. I'm agreeing with you that I don't believe he was fooled and he made a poor decision/throw.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7999 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:23 am to
I know that first interception wasn't a case of Tua failing to read the defense after the snap. Most of the posters on this board know it. Matt Wyatt knows it. John Doe knows it. Neither of them blamed Tua for missing a read after the snap. You, though, were claiming exactly that until the Wyatt and John Doe videos, and now you're trying to dig yourself out of the hole.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56626 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:27 am to
The DB one on one with Smith didn't even look at Smith the whole time. He knew that the blitz was going to make Tua throw to Jeudy, and then lucked out when Tua threw a bad pass. Damn. What a defensive play call.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20069 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:30 am to
Show me where I said Tua missed a read after the snap on the first INT.

We were clearly talking about the second INT, it's just you're not smart enough to know the difference between 'one' and 'two'.
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