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Time for Mizzou to make a commitment to Odom.

Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3472 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:34 pm
If you are not a fan of Odom you will not like this.
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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:57 pm to
Just give him performance bonuses and an extension.

Average attendance over 55k for home games -$500k bonus
Every win over 6 - $100k per
New Year’s Day bowl - $300k
Win the division $100k
Win the conference - $250k
Something like that.

Give him a 10% raise on top of what he’s making, too.

The article’s premise is dumb, IMO. “Show you’re serious by giving your coach a raise.” If we were “serious” in the way this article postulates, we wouldn’t have hired him in the first place.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:01 pm to
BO got a $25k bonus for the APR or GSR score. Other coaches bonuses for the same markers were all $100k or more.

I do like the idea of highly incentivizing his contract. So his max pay is in the middle of the SEC, which is close to $4 million.

Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:04 pm to
Still premature. Who’s Odom gonna leave Mizzou for? See how he does without Lock and QB unknowns first.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:06 pm to
Give him 10% raise and then incentivize the shite out of the contract.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6584 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:13 pm to
I say give him the raise. He has recruited well, and seems to be developing players. Can't blame him for Locks lack of fortitude. DB recruiting seems solid, gotta close on some DE's, maybe from the JUCO ranks.

He is really close to getting fans back in the seats.
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1414 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:44 pm to
The incentive ideas are great, I'd just tweak it to be very large bonuses for winning division, conference, big 6 bowl, playoff appearance, NC, etc....if he has a season where we achieve any of those, as Mizzou fans we would be pretty satisfied, and he would deserve a large compensation for those years. What is his contract length currently? Definitely want a coach who can always point out to recruits that he has 5 years on his contract, so he will see them through a redshirt plus 4 years.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18392 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

If you are not a fan of Odom you will not like this.


The point here is not what to like or dislike about BO. it is Missouri is not in the right situation to fire a head coach that IS showing some improvement from last year. Firing Odom while he is improving the team each year. Would any coach want the Missouri job after seeing Odom get canned for showing improvement every year? That is why you never ever do that. Missouri fans have been critical for blowing games and saying we should be 8-2. Look at Arky! They were worst than last year! Chad Morris had been a head coach before he got the Arky job. How could he have his team win only 2 games! and not win a SEC game so far? He also had been an OC under Clemson head coach. I am telling you there is no guarantee any coach will do well at their new school. I am for firing BO if he loses the team this year or next year. But it look like he shall be back next year. Got to give BO a chance to prove he can be that guy to get Missouri to the next level. But Missouri fans got to support him and if he failed next year then we will do the right way and get a replacement. Why fire him this year or next year or 2 years from now? Not going to make any difference. There will be other schools doing the same thing.

Also we should thank him for being a Mizzou guy and thank him for all he did at Mizzou. Then move on from there. Barry would not have that hatred for the bad treatment from fans and the AD for firing him for making improvements each year. That is why you support all head coach for doing things the right way. I know some fans wanted results right away to get to 10 win season. The current AD did not hired him. I do not see Arky fans batching their new head coach for not winning 4 or more games already at this time of the year.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3472 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:47 pm to
What happens if we lose out the rest of this year and go 6-6 and then lose whatever minor bowl that we get and finish 6-7 the same as last year?

Recruiting-wise I really like the dbs and safeties that he has commitments from for 2019, but I also liked Ulmer when he was recruited and I don't think he's even been in the rotation this year or even if he's still on the team.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:57 pm to
Ulmer is a true sophomore, it’s a little early to give up on him. He will have a chance to replace Hilton in the rotation next season.
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:04 pm to
He should be around the 3-4 million mark, and I don't even like Odom as a Coach for Mizzou.

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Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:18 pm to
Gabe DeArmond

decent sports reporter

shitty AD

and this article reeks of I have to produce something before deadline
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:19 pm to
You’re right, I don’t like this
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:27 pm to
Based on what?

Based on our awful attendance?
Our athletic department losing money?
His overall losing record?
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:28 pm to
yes the premise is bullshite
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15301 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

it's time for the Tigers to lock Barry Odom up for the foreseeable future.
As if another school is going to swoop in and take him from Mizzou. I agree about putting incentives in his contract. I also agree he has done some pretty decent recruiting finding some true gems.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16662 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:36 pm to
Ya coaches dont care about base pay anymore, incentives make coaches better, and buy outs are truly what coaches are for now
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3622 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:59 pm to
Gabe wrote this for several reasons. Two obvious ones were:

1. Get love from the FB coaches ("Like whatcha wrote there, Gabe ol' buddy")

2. Call attention to himself (and PM)
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7148 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:02 pm to
Yeah, it'd be Warren Powers part II.

I still have my doubts about Odom's game managing, but he deserves a year or two to prove he can learn from the mistakes.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:06 pm to
If you are giving him a raise/extension what he did in his first season is irrelevant. It has to be about where you think he takes the program.

If you think this is as good as he will be as a coach then do nothing. If Sterk thinks that within a couple years BO will have Mizzou winning 7 games in the down years and competing for SEC championships in the good years then it’s a good investment.
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