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Why did Auburn and LSU play each other so rarely before divisions?

Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:47 pm
I'm not sure when the SEC went to an 8 game format but I know for the longest time there was no scheduling formula and you essentially just played the conference opponents you wanted to just like out of conference. Was it just because we both already had more important historic rivalries to play? I feel like I could make assumptions because I wasn't alive before the 90's but I was wondering if anybody here could shed some extra details on our lack of match ups for most of the 20th century.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:52 pm to
Auburn had steady games with Georgia, Florida, Mississippi State, Alabama and Tennessee (not to mention Georgia Tech before they left the league).

From 1869-1991
1. Georgia (87)
2. Georgia Tech (84)
3. Florida (69)
4. Mississippi State (65)
5. Alabama (50)
6. Clemson (43)
7. Tennessee (42)

There were only so many league games to play.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Orange_and_Green
Belarus
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:53 pm to
Of course because lsu cannot drive through mississippippi.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23923 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:54 pm to
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(not to mention Georgia Tech before they left the league).



This was one I just discovered last year. Makes sense as they'r only 90 minutes from each other and it looks like they played each other for 25 years after GT left. They have 92 total meetings. I wonder how much older Auburn fans miss this one.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:55 pm to
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I wonder how much older Auburn fans miss this one.


The much older Auburn fans very much miss it. I don't know about those under the age of 50 or so.

Older Alabama fans hate Georgia Tech from the old Bobby Dodd-Bear Bryant days. My granddad sure does.
Posted by NDonahue
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:55 pm to
I always wondered the same about UT and Georgia. Seems like such an obvious matchup but they rarely played before 1992.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 12:56 pm
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:58 pm to
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I wonder how much older Auburn fans miss this one.

The Wreck Tech parade was a great tradition along with it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:00 pm to
Yea - the greasing the tracks story is one of the greats.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:02 pm to
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I wonder how much older Auburn fans miss this one.



I don't miss GT near as much as I miss UF. I also miss the UT series............but UF is by far my favorite rival we play on a limited basis now. GT would honestly be third on my list of the three. It was a great rivalry though.


LINK


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So it was Auburn’s first home game against Georgia Tech… their first home game ever, actually, Nov. 7, 1896. The Tigers destroyed the Yellow Jackets in the shadow of Samford Tower to the killer tune of 45-0. However, there is a good chance the game was not decided, at least entirely, by Auburn’s superior grasp of Xs and Os but rather Tech’s curious lack of Zzzs.

The buzz, as it were, was that the coach-less team from Georgia was hitting town by train in the wee, gameday morning hours. And so unknown number of Auburn cadets decided to welcome the team by literally greasing the rails for an Auburn victory, conspiring under an Alabama midnight only two days removed from a new moon to coat more than 400 yards worth of rails on either side of the train station with pig grease and lard and soap. The result: an unstoppable, brake-less slide past Auburn half-way to Loachapoka, nearly five miles.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:05 pm to
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I don't miss GT near as much as I miss UF. I also miss the UT series.


Permanent rival is Georgia, lost rivalries against Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia Tech. yeah y'all really do belong in the east.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Permanent rival is Georgia, lost rivalries against Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia Tech. yeah y'all really do belong in the east.



What's funny, though, is if you moved Auburn east here are Alabama's "most played" games through 1991 :

1. Mississippi State (74) (West)
2. Tennessee (73) (East)
3. Vanderbilt (69) (East)
4. Georgia (57) (East)
5. LSU (54) (West)
6. Georgia Tech (52) (ACC would be East)
7. Auburn (50) (East)

The only 2 West teams Alabama has real history with are MSU and LSU.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29770 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:08 pm to
It's the truth. bama is the only true rival in the West. bama wanting to keep UT is the one and only reason Auburn isn't in the East. UT and UF are much more natural rivals than anybody besides bama in the West.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8291 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:09 pm to
Each team had 6 teams they played every year and 1 team that rotated home and home. LSU's opponents were Ole Miss, Bama, MSU, UF, UK Rememeber this was Pre Ark, USC, aTm, and Mizz
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

It's the truth. bama is the only true rival in the West. bama wanting to keep UT is the one and only reason Auburn isn't in the East. UT and UF are much more natural rivals than anybody besides bama in the West.



Auburn played 50+ games vs State and Alabama

Alabama played 50+ games vs State, LSU and Auburn


Just kind of interesting that if you remove eachother from the equation State is really the only team in the West with a super long history for both teams, with Alabama having a bit more with LSU.

Alabama played Georgia, Vanderbilt and Tennessee more than anybody other than MSU pre-expansion, and played Georgia Tech almost as often as LSU (and obviously stopped playing them consistently in the late 1970s).

This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71488 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:14 pm to
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There were only so many league games to play.

yep, and until the late 80s, you only played 6 SEC games every year, then only 7 until the 1992 expansion
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29770 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:14 pm to
I'm not sure about Auburn.....and not going to do the research.

Georgia without question.

I would guess both UF and UT are probably next in line. I am sure Vandy is way up the list too.

This is just with the original SEC teams.


ETA GT may have been second before they left the Conf.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 1:15 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:16 pm to
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I'm not sure about Auburn.....and not going to do the research.



Pre-1992
1. Georgia (87)
2. Georgia Tech (84)
3. Florida (69)
4. Mississippi State (65)
5. Alabama (50)
6. Tennessee (42)
7. Tulane (36)
8. Vanderbilt (29)
9. Kentucky (26)
10. LSU (25)
11. Ole Miss (16)
12. Sewanee (8)


The Ole Miss number is crazy considering the states border and the campuses are 5 hours apart. And they were in the same conference.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29770 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:17 pm to
Thanks for that!

Vandy is much lower than I would have thought. I always forget about Tulane even being a member.


ETA I also didn't realize we had that many games against State.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:18 pm to
AU rarely played LSU, Ole Miss, Vandy and KY prior to 1992. They were probably the only team in the league that played UT, UF, UGA and Bama every year.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Thanks for that!

Vandy is much lower than I would have thought. I always forget about Tulane even being a member.



Looking at the history of the SEC just reinforces the idea of playing the pod schedules. The way we do things now is just silly.
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