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This loss was a coaching problem, pure and simple
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:44 pm
I am madder today than last night.
1. You don't "Hammer down" by not having any trust whatsoever in your team that has been getting well over 6 yards a carry, when you punt on 4th and 1
2. You don't begin tossing the ball every down after getting over 6 yds a carry all game.
3. You don't have such soft coverage in the final quarter just trying to hold on to the win, you win the game... not play to not lose
4. . I cant imagine what would happen if his son chooses Auburn to play at … What a glorious melt that would be.
with all of that being said... You don't fire a first year coach with the best recruiting class in years staring down the barrel. You don't give a message to others that you do not have enough patience for a coach to recruit out of this, coach out of this, etc. Yep, it was his fault... But he has to correct his mistakes, not be given the full monte out.
1. You don't "Hammer down" by not having any trust whatsoever in your team that has been getting well over 6 yards a carry, when you punt on 4th and 1
2. You don't begin tossing the ball every down after getting over 6 yds a carry all game.
3. You don't have such soft coverage in the final quarter just trying to hold on to the win, you win the game... not play to not lose
4. . I cant imagine what would happen if his son chooses Auburn to play at … What a glorious melt that would be.
with all of that being said... You don't fire a first year coach with the best recruiting class in years staring down the barrel. You don't give a message to others that you do not have enough patience for a coach to recruit out of this, coach out of this, etc. Yep, it was his fault... But he has to correct his mistakes, not be given the full monte out.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 9:20 pm
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Posted on 9/9/18 at 2:50 pm to Razorback Reverend
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You don't begin tossing the ball every down after getting over 6 yds a carry all game.
That didn’t happen. Arkansas attempted 4 more passes in the first half than in the second half. On top of that 2 or 3 of the second half passes were jet sweep shovels that are, for all practical purposes, a glorified run play.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:10 pm to Raz4back
Yeah I really don't understand the outrage. It's not like the line was opening huge holes either. We were gashing them because Whaley was staying extremely passive in the backfield and cutting back across the line routinely to find ways out because the hole that was designed to be open on the play wasn't there. Most of the rushing success was Whaley's doing. Our line is still bad. Can you nitpick in a one score loss? Sure, but the biggest problem isn't the coaching right now. They may have issues, but the biggest glaring issue is the complete lack of talent at key positions on this roster. Let him fill the team up. If he continues to recruit at a competitive level, I'm fine with this first year.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:30 pm to Razorback Reverend
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4. You spend more time recruiting out of this hole than watching your son play.
I can’t even remotely begin to understand why folks think this is a big issue. He spent a couple of hours on a Friday night watching his highly recruited son play. He didn’t miss any team meetings and was still in Ft. Collins by Friday night.
It almost would have been better that they didn’t mention it during the game so folks wouldn’t cling to it as the reason we lost. Sometimes not knowing what coaches do in their spare time is better for our fanbase.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:40 pm to TheCheshireHog
There’s just a lot of shitty fathers on this board I guess
Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:05 pm to Latarian
quote:Or people who aren't fathers at all because they can't convince a female to breed.
There’s just a lot of shitty fathers on this board I guess
Posted on 9/9/18 at 6:06 pm to TheCheshireHog
Actually he showed uplike at 10 or 11 Saturday morning to Fort Collins.
I understand wanting to see your son play, but when its your first true road game with your new team and program, you need to be on the plane with them showing them and the program that you're fully committed with what you've been preaching.
So far Chad Morris is just another full of shite coach. Preaches aggressivess on the field but coaches like a little bitch
I understand wanting to see your son play, but when its your first true road game with your new team and program, you need to be on the plane with them showing them and the program that you're fully committed with what you've been preaching.
So far Chad Morris is just another full of shite coach. Preaches aggressivess on the field but coaches like a little bitch
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:32 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
Yeah.No… not offended at the father comment crap at all.
Because I am a great father and know it.
However, I'm not making 3.6 million a year, taking over a medium program, and changing "hammer down" while being unable to coach a team of more talented kids to win against a terrible program.
He wins, I don't give a crap... especially against Colorado State, he loses like he did, everything gets questioned.
I still am on the boat, but it definitely took on some water last night
Because I am a great father and know it.
However, I'm not making 3.6 million a year, taking over a medium program, and changing "hammer down" while being unable to coach a team of more talented kids to win against a terrible program.
He wins, I don't give a crap... especially against Colorado State, he loses like he did, everything gets questioned.
I still am on the boat, but it definitely took on some water last night
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:40 pm to Razorback Reverend
I could be completely wrong, but don’t coaches head coaches go out and recruit on Friday nights.
This is a big fat nothing burger. We should be applauding him instead of torching him. Lead by example.
This is a big fat nothing burger. We should be applauding him instead of torching him. Lead by example.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:07 pm to Razorback Reverend
Not sure what the big deal isn’t about him going to watch his son. He flew from Fayetteville to Dallas, watched his son play. Flew out after the game and landed in Colorado a little after 11 that night.
I’m pretty critical of the coaching display I saw last night, but I’m never going to be critical of a father going to watch his son play ball. Never mind the fact his son is a legit recruit for next years class.
I’m away from my kids some, and Chad is away from his family 80% of the time right now. Being critical of that is pretty low IMO.
I’m pretty critical of the coaching display I saw last night, but I’m never going to be critical of a father going to watch his son play ball. Never mind the fact his son is a legit recruit for next years class.
I’m away from my kids some, and Chad is away from his family 80% of the time right now. Being critical of that is pretty low IMO.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:35 pm to Hawgeye
The players are what they are. Some pretty good, some not so good. But they are what we've got. I think they all want to win. I think.
The play calling is what did us in. Showing no confidence in your offensive team with less than a yard to go will leave a question in their mind.
The play calling is what did us in. Showing no confidence in your offensive team with less than a yard to go will leave a question in their mind.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:59 pm to Hawgeye
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’m away from my kids some, and Chad is away from his family 80% of the time right now. Being critical of that is pretty low IMO.
I get it, but I also am stating that honestly, in the big $$$ world of college athletics, it has become fair game. Especially in losses of this magnitude with such inept coaching.
What I mean by this is this. When you are paid what he is, and you lost to who he lost too.. there is not shield for criticism. It comes with the territory. I am away from my kids way too much at times. I try to make up for it in quality time. and there are times I simply shut down other things for the sake of my family.
all of this to say, the criticism is coming from so many places, by so many people. The niceities of the honeymoon are way over, way too quick.
It isn't his fault. It is the history of the past few years. We have sucked so bad, for far too long. There isn't much cushion left for anyone.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:18 pm to Razorback Reverend
ok, after thinking more on #4 and your comments... I was a bit harsh. I still think folks will consider it fair game, and they are wrong.. because of the emotionalism involved within our fanbase.
It sucks. will remove.
It sucks. will remove.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:50 pm to Hawgeye
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I’m away from my kids some, and Chad is away from his family 80% of the time right now. Being critical of that is pretty low IMO.
Are we not paying chad enough to afford housing large enough to house his family and the ability to rent a uhaul to move his family's possessions?
If so, that is almost as embarrassing as losing to CSU with a 18 point lead going into the 4th quarter.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:54 pm to Hawgeye
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I’m away from my kids some, and Chad is away from his family 80% of the time right now. Being critical of that is pretty low IMO.
Aggie Chad's choice. He was hired to win games. Less than stellar is an understatement.
Video and facetime are a thing I hear.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 10:20 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
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Actually he showed uplike at 10 or 11 Saturday morning to Fort Collins.
To the first team meeting but he was there Friday night.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:36 am to Razorback Reverend
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I am madder today than last night.
1. You don't "Hammer down" by not having any trust whatsoever in your team that has been getting well over 6 yards a carry, when you punt on 4th and 1
2. You don't begin tossing the ball every down after getting over 6 yds a carry all game.
3. You don't have such soft coverage in the final quarter just trying to hold on to the win, you win the game... not play to not lose
4. . I cant imagine what would happen if his son chooses Auburn to play at … What a glorious melt that would be.
with all of that being said... You don't fire a first year coach with the best recruiting class in years staring down the barrel. You don't give a message to others that you do not have enough patience for a coach to recruit out of this, coach out of this, etc. Yep, it was his fault... But he has to correct his mistakes, not be given the full monte out.
This is a stupid post.
Obviously you have no clue how difficult it is to take a program from stone age grind the clock football to HUNH. It doesn't happen over night... It'll be midseason at least before we can go fast enough.... it takes FREAKIN TIME>>>>
You obviously aren't a coach... and your a pretty dang bad fan at the moment.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:47 am to ElDawgHawg
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This is a stupid post.
Obviously you have no clue how difficult it is to take a program from stone age grind the clock football to HUNH. It doesn't happen over night... It'll be midseason at least before we can go fast enough.... it takes FREAKIN TIME>>>>
You obviously aren't a coach... and your a pretty dang bad fan at the moment.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:10 pm to ElDawgHawg
I am glad that your opinion has no more validity than my own. For you are an idiot if you think that yelling "Hammer Down", "Fast Lane" and the "Boogie" crap while not going for it on 4th and 1 isn't ridiculous. there is nothing about speed with that thought process, nothing that gives your offensive system any confidence. It was a bad call period.
As with the over 6 yards a game rushing. We had, I believe close to 250 yards of rushing at the half.. close. and 80 in the 2nd half. While going 3 and out with the passing game. Why not run on 4 and 1?
The coverage was terrible in the 4th. Yep, may have been worn down because of all the passing crap that didn't work, may have been the elevation that we were playing in, I don't know. but we got softer as the game wore on.
and this was against Colorado State, not an SEC team..
True, I am not a coach and don't give a crap who is other than Chad Morris. this is a message board where we give our opinions. Those were mine... and you are right. I don't know how difficult it is to take Bert Ball to full tilt boogie, those clichés are getting a bit old already.
Nope, not a coach... I think that you are and your bravado didn't answer anything. It simply made you take a personal insult approach to your reply... Congrats, did you win any points with that reply?
As with the over 6 yards a game rushing. We had, I believe close to 250 yards of rushing at the half.. close. and 80 in the 2nd half. While going 3 and out with the passing game. Why not run on 4 and 1?
The coverage was terrible in the 4th. Yep, may have been worn down because of all the passing crap that didn't work, may have been the elevation that we were playing in, I don't know. but we got softer as the game wore on.
and this was against Colorado State, not an SEC team..
True, I am not a coach and don't give a crap who is other than Chad Morris. this is a message board where we give our opinions. Those were mine... and you are right. I don't know how difficult it is to take Bert Ball to full tilt boogie, those clichés are getting a bit old already.
Nope, not a coach... I think that you are and your bravado didn't answer anything. It simply made you take a personal insult approach to your reply... Congrats, did you win any points with that reply?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:13 pm to Razorback Reverend
When posting this, the thread above me was
Guess I offended the "Coach" part of you more than that one.
To which I think it is ridiculous to fire a coach in year 1, or 2, give him time with the talent, system. I was simply calling out the false bravado in the clichés without showing faith in his players.
We should not have lost that game plain and simple.
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For all of you people who say give a coach a pass year 1
Guess I offended the "Coach" part of you more than that one.
To which I think it is ridiculous to fire a coach in year 1, or 2, give him time with the talent, system. I was simply calling out the false bravado in the clichés without showing faith in his players.
We should not have lost that game plain and simple.
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