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Was Smart's impactfulness at Bama undersold?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:27 am
I know Georgia is full of talent, but Smart just came in and out-recruited Saban in his first go around. Saban had, what, five or six recruiting titles in a row?
Was Smart more valuable to Bama's recruiting than we originally thought?
Was Smart more valuable to Bama's recruiting than we originally thought?
This post was edited on 8/25/18 at 10:29 am
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:29 am to Rillo
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I know Georgia is full of talent, but Smart just came in and out-recruited Saban in his first go around. Saban had, what, five or six recruiting titles in a row?
Was Smart more valuable to Bama's recruiting than we originally thought?
You have to remember Saban also lost Pruitt. He is older and the whispers of him not being here 4 years from now are probably more believable than in the past, etc...Nothing happens in a vacuum. Smart deserves credit for taking uga's situation and to this point capitalizing on it.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:29 am to Rillo
You tell me
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:30 am to viceman
I'm referring to recruiting, not the actual games.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:39 am to Rillo
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I'm referring to recruiting, not the actual games.
I don't know Rillo. Smart always got a lot of credit in the media, bur he got passed on by a lot schools looking for a new coach. So I would say he was not undersold in the press, but was in the coaching searches.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:41 am to Rillo
Dell McGee, Sam Pittman, Glen Schuman + Smart
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:04 am to Tigerman97
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whispers of him not being here 4 years from now are probably more believable than in the past
I wouldn't give Nick that good a pass. Heck, when he arrived at Alabama, the fact that'd he'd never stayed anywhere longer than like 4 years or so was always being brought up. Whispers that he'll bolt the NFL have become an off-season tradition at this point.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:11 pm to Rillo
Well a lot of the recruits are from Georgia, Smart has just been able to block down the state which has an insane amount of talent
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:14 pm to dawgfan24348
This, I also remember smart getting a lot of credit for his recruiting at bama
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:34 pm to Rillo
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I know Georgia is full of talent, but Smart just came in and out-recruited Saban in his first go around. Saban had, what, five or six recruiting titles in a row?
I do agree that Smart out recruited Saban in his first "real" year. However, I also think there were several factors that contributed to that.
1. It was the first year of the early signing period, and Smart may have had a better grasp of how to handle that.
2. Alabama took a much smaller class than Georgia.
3. Saban was breaking in a lot of new faces on his staff, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.
That said, the overall average point wise at Georgia was higher per player, and Georgia is still doing a nice job recruiting against Alabama. So, while there were other factors as to why UGA finished #1 in the country last year, we are still doing very, very well. I do believe Kirby had a ton to do with Alabama's recruiting success over the years, but Alabama's success on the field sells itself, so Kirby helped build that, but it is also sustainable without Kirby....at least for awhile. Long term we will have to see if Georgia can continue recruiting well...and long term we will have to see if losing Kirby (And Mel Tucker) will have a slow drain on Alabama's recruiting.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:40 pm to DawgsLife
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However, I also think there were several factors that contributed to that.
And sometimes a state produces more prospects than another. There are also other relationships in play to consider. I don't say that to undersell what Kirby did in recruiting last year, I just don't know that it will be the norm from now on.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:00 pm to Rillo
Smart took advantage of relationships he built while under Saban. Then Saban’s new staff couldn’t rebuild all those relationships by nsd.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:12 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Smart is a great recruiter and evaluator. He's in one of if not the best recruiting situations in America. He was always going to have high level success there.
Saban replaced all of his staff over the last 2 years and stubbed his toe with the early period stuff. There was going to be a "lull". Bound to be. We'll have the #1 or #2 class this year, because Saban doesn't mess the same thing up twice.
Alabama and Georgia will continue to have rosters stocked with NFL players for the foreseeable future.
Saban replaced all of his staff over the last 2 years and stubbed his toe with the early period stuff. There was going to be a "lull". Bound to be. We'll have the #1 or #2 class this year, because Saban doesn't mess the same thing up twice.
Alabama and Georgia will continue to have rosters stocked with NFL players for the foreseeable future.
This post was edited on 8/25/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:38 pm to viceman
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Smart always got a lot of credit in the media, bur he got passed on by a lot schools looking for a new coach.
Help me out here. The only two places I know that he applied for were the AU job before Gus and the UGA job. Who else passed on him?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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We'll have the #1 or #2 class this year
I feel like UGA and Bama will be #1 and #2 most years in recruiting as long as both coaches are still there.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:55 pm to dawgfan24348
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^ If Kirby keeps the elite HS players then he is in high cotton. Kirby signed a bunch of Georgia players at Bama and about half of them were processed. Richt couldn't sign them all and he had more arrest than Marshall Dillon.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:59 pm to Rillo
Kirby always got his share of credit for Alabama recruiting. Saban and Smart were a great tandem.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:12 pm to Rillo
He was always a good recruiter, not surprised at all.
His true impact will take a few years to see. Right now, he's got a lot of hype going on for him, much of which is due to Saban. He's going to need to maintain that for awhile before you can really see what he is doing for himself.
Because no other 1st time coach is getting that hype. So if anything, I think Saban's impactfulness on Georgia's recruiting is undersold.
His true impact will take a few years to see. Right now, he's got a lot of hype going on for him, much of which is due to Saban. He's going to need to maintain that for awhile before you can really see what he is doing for himself.
Because no other 1st time coach is getting that hype. So if anything, I think Saban's impactfulness on Georgia's recruiting is undersold.
This post was edited on 8/25/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:26 pm to Rillo
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Was Smart more valuable to Bama's recruiting than we originally thought?
Smart was hailed as a fantastic recruiter while at Alabama. What else were people supposed to say?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:29 pm to Rillo
The same Kirby Smart that got out coached and choked in the National Championship game?
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