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re: Kirby an Mullen speak out against free agency. Fear is that open transfers

Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:11 pm to
Do they have to sit out any classes?

Because it seems like you don’t want to keep the “student” in “student athlete” because your trying to put a limits on “student athletes” that doesn’t exist for “students”
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Do they have to sit out any classes?

Because it seems like you don’t want to keep the “student” in “student athlete” because your trying to put a limits on “student athletes” that doesn’t exist for “students”


I will answer your question after you answer mine.

Are you for the early signing period?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 3:50 pm to
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Do they have to sit out any classes?

Because it seems like you don’t want to keep the “student” in “student athlete” because your trying to put a limits on “student athletes” that doesn’t exist for “students”


A student transfer does not need to sit out any classes.

See my post above about the LOI. I am not doing anything. The universities tout "graduating college for free" as an exchange for limiting the rights of the student athlete. The student athletes limit themselves when they agree to the contract.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 4:36 pm to
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Do they have to sit out any classes?


Not exactly a valid question, given that a student athlete doesn't have to sit out any classes upon transfer. In fact, they are given a scholarship immediately even in spite of the fact that they are required to sit out currently if not a graduate transfer.

With no special circumstances (coach leaves, family issues, etc), I see no reason why all student athletes should be afforded the option of just bailing and going to wherever they want with no penalty at all. The initial school assumes the risk that you may or may not be able to contribute in exchange for a scholarship... upon practicing and learning, you find that you are not quite good enough to start but are good enough to finally be of value to the team... so you take that value and put it on the open market with no downside. Basically, you're asking the initial institute to be a "trade school" or apprenticeship program, and then act as a revolving door.

I think there are a lot of things that are *not* in the favor of the student athlete, but a one year sit penalty for transferring prior to graduation is not one of them. It's within reason so long as the cases with extenuating circumstances have room for appeal and are legitimately considered.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2794 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:24 pm to
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Do they have to sit out any classes?


No but you don't get complete transfer credit either forcing you to retake some classes. Your transfer GPA is also not factored into your graduate GPA at most places either. The only time you get 100% transfer over is when you transfer within the same university system and even then sometimes you have to get waivers for that. So the idea that a regular student is not penalized for transferring is at best ignorance and worst an outright lie.
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