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Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:19 pm to seanpendleton10
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:19 pm to seanpendleton10
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Alabama defensive line coach Karl Dunbar has been hired to coach the same position for the Pittsburgh Steelers, it was announced on Thursday.
Dunbar departs Tuscaloosa after coaching the defensive line for two seasons. Dunbar had spent most of his coaching career in the NFL, working for the Chicago Bears, Minnesota Vikings, New York Jets and Buffalo Bills before coming to Alabama.
“It’s awesome to be back,” Dunbar said in a news release. “This team drafted me out of college. Just to be back and the nostalgia of Pittsburgh, the mystic of Pittsburgh, the workman’s mentality. Hopefully I can bring that to the team.
“Having the relationship with Mike (Tomlin) and some of the coaches on the staff. Knowing Coach (John) Mitchell, who was a coach at LSU when I played. A lot of things he did, I do. I will lean on him to help me get to know the guys in the defensive line room and hopefully make it a great transition.”
Dunbar is the fourth assistant coach to depart Alabama this offeseason. Offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt and defensive backs coach Derrick Ansley have all accepted other positions. Dunbar’s departure means that outside linebackers coach Tosh Lupoi is the only holdover from the 2017 staff on defense.
Dunbar helped Jonathan Allen and Dalvin Tomlinson become first and second round picks in last year’s draft, respectively. Defensive tackle Da’Ron Payne and defensive end Da’Shawn Hand are projected to be drafted this spring.
Alabama led the nation in scoring defense in 2016 and 2017. It also led the nation in rushing defense both seasons. The Crimson Tide defense posted 54 sacks in 2016 and 40 in 2017 as Alabama went 27-2 with one national championship.
Alabama defensive line coach Karl Dunbar has been hired to coach the same position for the Pittsburgh Steelers, it was announced on Thursday.
Dunbar departs Tuscaloosa after coaching the defensive line for two seasons. Dunbar had spent most of his coaching career in the NFL, working for the Chicago Bears, Minnesota Vikings, New York Jets and Buffalo Bills before coming to Alabama.
“It’s awesome to be back,” Dunbar said in a news release. “This team drafted me out of college. Just to be back and the nostalgia of Pittsburgh, the mystic of Pittsburgh, the workman’s mentality. Hopefully I can bring that to the team.
“Having the relationship with Mike (Tomlin) and some of the coaches on the staff. Knowing Coach (John) Mitchell, who was a coach at LSU when I played. A lot of things he did, I do. I will lean on him to help me get to know the guys in the defensive line room and hopefully make it a great transition.”
Dunbar is the fourth assistant coach to depart Alabama this offeseason. Offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt and defensive backs coach Derrick Ansley have all accepted other positions. Dunbar’s departure means that outside linebackers coach Tosh Lupoi is the only holdover from the 2017 staff on defense.
Dunbar helped Jonathan Allen and Dalvin Tomlinson become first and second round picks in last year’s draft, respectively. Defensive tackle Da’Ron Payne and defensive end Da’Shawn Hand are projected to be drafted this spring.
Alabama led the nation in scoring defense in 2016 and 2017. It also led the nation in rushing defense both seasons. The Crimson Tide defense posted 54 sacks in 2016 and 40 in 2017 as Alabama went 27-2 with one national championship.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:20 pm to seanpendleton10
I'm guessing with a full year with Seanpendleton10, we will reach 1500 pages. Gonna be a record year fellas
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:25 pm to Cobrasize
Preliminary defensive line coach candidates
With the news that defensive line coach Karl Dunbar is off to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the dizzying coaching staff turnover at Alabama continues.
As previously reported, these changes stem from the desire of Nick Saban to double down on recruiting efforts.
So who are the candidates Alabama might look towards to step in as defensive line coach? Here are a few preliminary names (listed in alphabetical order).
Todd Bates
Bates is currently the defensive line coach at Clemson. He was a defensive end for the Crimson Tide from 2001-04, voted a permanent team captain in 2004. He also spent time as a college coach in the state at Jacksonville State from 2014-16.
Bo Davis
Davis is a name Alabama fans should be familiar with as he’s spent time as a UA defensive line coach in two different stints. Currently an assistant at Texas-San Antonio, Davis is coveted by Saban. However, Davis is still under a show cause from the NCAA from his last stop in Tuscaloosa. Davis is an excellent recruiter and Saban trusts his defensive lineman evaluations.
Eric Henderson
Henderson spent the 2017 season as an assistant defensive line coach with the Las Angeles Chargers. Prior to that, Henderson was with Texas-San Antonio in 2016, where he worked with Davis and current UA defensive assistant coach Pete Golding. Henderson is native of New Orleans, a fertile recruiting area that Alabama recruits heavily.
Freddie Roach
Roach played and has been on staff at Alabama. He was a big part of the Crimson Tide’s defense during his career which spanned from 2002-05. He was an assistant strength and conditioning coach at UA from 2008-10 before moving to Murray State and then on to South Alabama as an assistant coach. He rejoined the UA program in 2015 before being named the Ole Miss defensive line coach in 2017.
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With the news that defensive line coach Karl Dunbar is off to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the dizzying coaching staff turnover at Alabama continues.
As previously reported, these changes stem from the desire of Nick Saban to double down on recruiting efforts.
So who are the candidates Alabama might look towards to step in as defensive line coach? Here are a few preliminary names (listed in alphabetical order).
Todd Bates
Bates is currently the defensive line coach at Clemson. He was a defensive end for the Crimson Tide from 2001-04, voted a permanent team captain in 2004. He also spent time as a college coach in the state at Jacksonville State from 2014-16.
Bo Davis
Davis is a name Alabama fans should be familiar with as he’s spent time as a UA defensive line coach in two different stints. Currently an assistant at Texas-San Antonio, Davis is coveted by Saban. However, Davis is still under a show cause from the NCAA from his last stop in Tuscaloosa. Davis is an excellent recruiter and Saban trusts his defensive lineman evaluations.
Eric Henderson
Henderson spent the 2017 season as an assistant defensive line coach with the Las Angeles Chargers. Prior to that, Henderson was with Texas-San Antonio in 2016, where he worked with Davis and current UA defensive assistant coach Pete Golding. Henderson is native of New Orleans, a fertile recruiting area that Alabama recruits heavily.
Freddie Roach
Roach played and has been on staff at Alabama. He was a big part of the Crimson Tide’s defense during his career which spanned from 2002-05. He was an assistant strength and conditioning coach at UA from 2008-10 before moving to Murray State and then on to South Alabama as an assistant coach. He rejoined the UA program in 2015 before being named the Ole Miss defensive line coach in 2017.
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This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:25 pm to Cobrasize
quote:that's a lot of downvotes. Might break the site
I'm guessing with a full year with Seanpendleton10
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:32 pm to MontyFranklyn
Nation’s No. 1 CB — Alabama signee Patrick Surtain Jr. — talks tearful phone call with LSU and why he chose Tide
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Patrick Surtain Jr. talks close decision
LSU defensive backs coach Corey Raymond had been recruiting 5-star cornerback Patrick Surtain Jr. since the Alabama signee was in the ninth grade. Surtain is very close to Raymond. The Tigers led for several years in his recruitment due, in part, to his relationship with Raymond.
Former Alabama defensive backs coach Derrick Ansley established a good relationship with Surtain, but he left for the Oakland Raiders in January. That left less than a month for Surtain to build a relationship with new DBs coach Karl Scott. While there was no way to compare his relationship with Scott to Raymond, it was clear that Surtain chose the possibility of winning championships over comfortability.
“It’s tough, but I wanted to be a part of that winning culture,” Surtain told SEC Country. “No disrespect to LSU — they are doing a great job over there. I respect Coach Raymond and coach [Ed] Orgeron. I just appreciate everything they’ve done for me, but Alabama is the right decision for me.”
Surtain told the LSU staff at midnight ET that he wasn’t choosing the Tigers. It destroyed the Tigers’ recruiting efforts because Clemson signee Mario Goodrich was leaning toward LSU, but he didn’t have a committable offer from Orgeron, so he chose Clemson. LSU was holding that spot for Surtain.
The phone call Surtain made changed Alabama’s and LSU’s future at the same time. The Tide landed a priority target as the team needs to replace every starter in the secondary from their 2017 team, while the Tigers whiffed on a player who they thought they were getting for years, and they failed to have a backup plan ready in case Surtain did choose a different school.
“It’s tough,” Orgeron said on Wednesday. “Put a lot of work into [recruiting him]. “All indications the whole time was he was coming here. Night before you get a call and he’s not.
“Obviously you’ve got to change your plans. You know what? That’s recruiting. We’re happy with the guys we got. We want guys who want to be at LSU.”
Orgeron is right. It’s recruiting. There are no locks in recruiting. Alabama learned that on Wednesday, too, with 4-star wide receiver Justyn Ross. Ross had been trending toward Alabama for more than a month and gave a strong indication to the Tide that he was going to end up signing with them. He signed with Clemson instead.
Ross had been a major target for the Tide for more than a year. He was the state of Alabama’s No. 1 prospect. But recruiting happens, like Orgeron said. And it’s exactly what Surtain said happened to him and his choice to choose Alabama.
“It was a tough decision between LSU and Alabama,” Surtain said. “LSU has been my favorite ever since [my recruitment started], but stuff changes. I’m glad I made this decision.”
There were several reasons to believe Surtain would end up choosing the Tigers. He has lots of family in Louisiana. He had been to LSU more than Alabama throughout his recruiting process. His idol is Patrick Peterson, an LSU great. He talked on several occasions how great it would be to play in front of lots of family members.
That’s what made that midnight phone call a tough one.
“It was very hard. I was actually in tears,” Surtain said. “After the phone call ended, I was still in tears, but I knew Alabama was going to be the right decision for me.”
Surtain said he internally battled over his decision all day on Tuesday and said he would have chosen either school but ultimately decided that Alabama was the better option for him to reach his three goals: win the Jim Thorpe Award (given to the nation’s top defensive back, which Minkah Fitzpatrick won this past season), win a national championship and earn his degree.
“The winning atmosphere,” Surtain said is what put Alabama over the top. “The atmosphere is great up there. Coach [Nick] Saban does a great job with his players. I think I could fit in that situation. It’s a great fit for me, and it’s a great fit for my family.”
The Army All-American’s father, Patrick Surtain Sr., who played in the NFL from 1998-2008 for the Kansas City Chiefs and Miami Dolphins, said he thought his son was going to end up choosing LSU.
“I did. I actually did. That’s why he was so torn because he’s been liking LSU since he was a kid,” Patrick Surtain Sr. said. “He was their guy since ninth grade. The relationship he built with Coach Raymond, man, that was a special relationship and hopefully, that relationship can continue. They’re 17-year-old kids, man, so for an adult to fault a kid for going to a particular college, that’s not cool. He picked what was best for him and I’m happy for him.”
That comment came before former LSU Tiger and current Miami Dolphins wide receiver appeared to take a shot at Surtain Jr. for picking Alabama over his former school.
Jarvis Juice Landry @God_Son80
You don’t have a plate at this table no more.. Groupie
9:16 AM - Feb 7, 2018
Landry received a lot of backlash, rightfully so, for calling out a high school player on choosing a school that he didn’t support. He backtracked on his tweet several hours later and claimed his comments weren’t directed at anyone in particular … right.
Surtain Sr. did notice the comment.
PAT SURTAINl @psurtain23
Watch your mouth!!!
12:04 PM - Feb 7, 2018
Surtain Jr. meant a lot for the future of LSU’s program. He was a must-get for the Tigers, and Saban stole him away from them. When asked if Alabama fans should expect to see him in a National Championship Game one day, Surtain responded with confidence.
“Oh yeah. Most definitely,” Surtain said with a smile.
That’ll be the day LSU thinks about what could’ve been while Alabama relishes in yet another major recruiting win over one of its rivals.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:34 pm to Cobrasize
Is that a bad thing??? During the dead periods when the board moves like a slug I can give some posters something to get pissy about lol. Seriously though ill be posting info instead of opinions
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:36 pm to seanpendleton10
Have an upvote broseph.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:41 pm to seanpendleton10
Not a bad thing at all. There are slow days that we need someone to stimulate conversation and you are good at doing that
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:51 pm to seanpendleton10
Have a down vote for old time sake.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:53 pm to Cobrasize
There’s one thing that nobody can deny about this past season. If things were slow and the board needed a little spark, all you had to do is mention ANYTHING about the QB/passing game/offense and here comes Huddie and a whole lotta pages to click through
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:05 pm to Cobrasize
Jesus I just can't get enough of the melt on Tiger Rant. There's a thread asking the question "where would the program be if OSU didn't lose to Iowa State?"
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:08 pm to Cobrasize
Nick Saban hints at adding QB, DL after National Signing Day
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Alabama signed 20 players during the 2018 recruiting cycle.
But head coach Nick Saban hinted that the Crimson Tide, which currently has the nation’s No. 7 recruiting class, might add more at two positions after Wednesday’s National Signing Day.
Alabama has yet to sign a quarterback after being finalists for a pair of West Coast quarterbacks toward the end of the 2018 recruiting cycle -- 4-star Brevin White and 3-star Brock Purdy.
But even with Tua Tagovailoa, Jalen Hurts and Mac Jones returning, Saban said he still wants to add a signal caller -- which would more than likely come in the form of a graduate transfer.
“I think that we’ll probably have a quarterback join us in some kind of way between now and then, which I don’t think I can comment about,” Saban said. “Look, when you have really good young players at a position, sometimes it’s hard to attract another guy at that particular position.
“I think you all know our circumstance at quarterback right now with the players that we have here and what grade they’re in and how much more eligibility they have. So, rather than reach for somebody, we would rather try to solve the issue maybe a different way with maybe a more experienced guy down the road and certainly think that next year we might be in position to get a really good player at that position who could be someone who could impact us in the future.”
Hurts will be a junior next season, while Tagovailoa will start his sophomore year and Jones will be a redshirt freshman. Alabama also added Braxton Barker, the son of championship-winning quarterback Jay Barker, as a preferred walk-on. But as he has said in the past, Saban wants to have four scholarship quarterbacks on his Tide roster, if at all possible.
The second position Saban mentioned Wednesday evening was on the defensive side of the ball.
UA signed two defensive linemen in 4-stars Stephon Wynn, who is already on campus as an early enrollee, and Christian Barmore during the early signing period. But four players, including starters Da'Ron Payne and Da'Shawn Hand, aren’t returning in 2018.
The Crimson Tide saw Bobby Brown, a 2-month commitment, flip and sign with Texas A&M, and in-state prospect Malik Langham chose Florida over Alabama. Multiple times during a news conference, Saban said he wanted to sign an additional defensive lineman this cycle. So, in order to have quality, and quantity, depth along the defensive, the search continues.
“We were actually hoping to get one more defensive lineman in this class,” Saban said. “We feel really good about the two guys that we got. Stephon Wynn is a really good player, a big power guy. Barmore is the same kind of guy.
“I think some of the outside ‘backer-type guys have become defensive linemen, so the fact that we got some really good guys at outside ‘backer that have really good size and really good size potential may grow into something else in their career here. But that’s something that remains to be seen. But we feel really good about those two guys.
“Again, if we had our druthers we’d have got one more guy at that position, and we’ll continue to maybe look and evaluate and see if there’s somebody out there that would help us.”
As for which players Saban and company will target, that remains to be seen.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:26 pm to TidalSurge1
I told y'all yesterday to check their board out it's glorious to watch them melt. Cajuns are so funny when they get mad. And they have it down to an art form. Sean nobody minds opinions as long as it isn't disturbing the board. I have plenty of opinions and most of them suck. I just don't keep repeating them when I'm called out. Lol
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:34 pm to labamafan
Someone needs to go get those Rivals free articles and post them here...
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:00 pm to TideSaint
I've never been on that site but I'll find em and bring em over here
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:06 pm to Cobrasize
Rivals free
The only one relevant to us is Jaylen Moody
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The Unknowns: Five surprise prospects who signed with big programs
The only one relevant to us is Jaylen Moody
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Moody went from a handful of FCS offers to signing with the defending national champions in less than a month. Ole Miss and Arkansas were the first schools to notice him and both hosted him for an official visit. Alabama came in late and quickly jumped to the front of the line, hosting Moody for an official visit last weekend and ultimately landing his commitment on Wednesday. Had prospects like J.J. Peterson or Quay Walker given the Tide his pledge, there might not have been room for Moody, but now he's headed to Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:12 pm to Cobrasize
The Farrell awards
Free rivals
The next few post come from this article
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The Farrell Awards are always popular - or unpopular - depending on which team and prospects you like. But love them or hate them, they are a must following National Signing Day. So wearing my best tux, here is the hardware from the biggest day of the year: the Oscars of recruiting.
Free rivals
The next few post come from this article
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:15 pm to Cobrasize
The Best Get
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Nick Petit-Frere is the best offensive tackle in the 2018 class when it comes to upside and I don’t think it’s very close. So the Buckeyes are getting an elite, potential first-rounder. When Ohio State lost Jackson Carman many in Columbus were disappointed, but this kid is going to be better, likely much better. Mark my words.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 5:16 pm
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