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My CVL game thread

Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:38 pm
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:38 pm
I just don't get it. Why is he starting
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127662 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:44 pm to
He is the enigma of Mizzou basketball.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:53 pm to
I don’t get the CVL complaints. Mizzou has 4 perimeter players. Mizzou needs CVL to be able to play about 20 solid minutes. Which he’s done the last few games.
Also if MPJ is healthy, or 2 of Phillips, Harris and Phillips are still playing the CVL isn’t needed.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:58 pm to
He plays too much. Geist should start at point with Robertson at the 2. CVL should only spell Geist, not start over him.

CVLs stat line is typically awful. He's not a good defender, ball handler, or rebounder. He should be the last guy off the bench.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127662 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:19 pm to
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CVL isn’t needed.


CVL played when we had all of those players.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:23 pm to
Personally, I’d prefer him in the game when we’re getting pressed.

Geist is just clueless against the press, he picks up the dribble at half court every goddamn time.

CVL is a meh guy, but maybe he’s able to get the ball up on the press.

I just hate watching Geist when teams press.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:24 pm to
We saw 2 minutes of MPJ, but CVL wasn’t playing much late in the noncon part of the season. CVL plays because he’s the best option for the 20 minutes a game that Mizzou needs a 4th perimeter player.
He’s not going to win Mizzou any games, but won’t lose any games either.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:27 pm to
Our roster is such that it’s impossible to complain about him getting playing time. But by the end of his career, he will have the most minutes of any Mizzou player who has contributed as little as he has.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:51 pm to
I just don't see him contributing at all next year.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
773 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 5:06 pm to
Neither CVL nor Geist has shown that one should get significant time over the other. Why do you like Geist so much? He had a pass today that was literally thrown straight to a Kentucky player and he has become a bad free throw shooter.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127662 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 5:21 pm to
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just don't see him contributing at all next year.


That’s what we said last year and the year before. And when he was recruited.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 7:30 pm to
Geist plays better defense and is a better ball handler. He's also very physical.

Only issue I have with Geist is he picks up his dribble randomly for no apparent reason.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 7:40 pm to
Geist, Puryear and CVL are good players for Cuonzo to develop program culture. Neither are great athletes, but they are bought in, play hard and are physical.
Hopefully Cuonzo can bring in some perimeter players that will make Mizzou less reliant on them.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:04 pm to
Puryear is making plays right now. His offensive rebounding the past to games is a big reason we've won both.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6705 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:31 pm to
Knox had his lowest point production since conference play started. It was a direct result of Vanleer's effort on the defensive end of the floor. His minutes weren't completely wasted.

Posted by NEMizzou
Columbia MO
Member since Nov 2013
1372 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Knox had his lowest point production since conference play started. It was a direct result of Vanleer's effort on the defensive end of the floor. His minutes weren't completely wasted


This. Plus when Mizzou went on the run that stopped UKs momentum at the beginning of the second half, he was the guy who got the steal. He has actually turned into a serviceable defender at times, which I didn't think was possible. Depending on the lineup he is with, he doesn't need to score anyway and he has done a good job not forcing things, which Geist struggles with.

Guy doesn't try to do too much, which I appreciate (and you can't say that for everyone---looking at those 3-pt stats for Puryear)
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:01 pm to
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I don’t get the CVL complaints.


Because he's too slow. He can't defend. And quite honestly, he doesn't shoot that well. He shoots barely ok, but not great. Unless ESPN is wrong, he is shooting 0.00% from the line.

quote:

Mizzou needs CVL to be able to play about 20 solid minutes.


I would agree with NEEDS. But it ain't happening.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:04 pm to
I take it you didn’t watch the Kentucky game. CVL was a big part of Knox struggling today.

Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6844 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:11 pm to
When Cameron Van Leer walks on next year we get 4 to 5 more years of CVL.

Next year will CVL x 2
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 2:36 pm to
Still sucks
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