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Alabama Basketball : Where we are today and possible outcomes

Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:35 pm
Alright, so I figured I'd make this it's own thread. Here is where we are and then I'll list some "what if" scenarios to give an idea of where we'd be numbers wise if that were to occur.

Alabama Crimson Tide (14-7, 5-3)
RPI : #29
EloChess : #29
KenPom : #55
ESPN BPI : #52
Strength of Schedule : #10
Record vs RPI Groups : 3-2 vs #1, 5-4 vs #2, 4-1 vs #3, 2-0 vs #4
SEC Standings : T3 w/ Tennessee/Kentucky

Best Wins : #5 Auburn, #9 Rhode Island, #10 Oklahoma, #37 Texas A&M
Worst Losses : @ #123 Vanderbilt, #107 Minnesota, @ #84 Ole Miss, #71 UCF


Future Scenarios
#1 - Win out at home, lose out on road
Record : 19-12 (10-8)
RPI : #29
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, Florida
Losses : @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M

#2 - Win out at home, steal MSU on the road
Record : 20-11 (11-7)
RPI : #20
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, Florida
Losses : @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M

#3 - Lose all tossups/underdog games
Record : 16-15 (7-11)
RPI : #60
SOS : #5
Wins : Missouri, LSU,
Losses : @ MSU, Tennessee, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida, Arkansas

#4 - Lose all but 1 tossups/underdog games
Record : 17-14 (8-10)
RPI : #51
SOS : #5
Wins : Missouri, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ MSU, Tennessee, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida

#5 - Beat Missouri/LSU and split Tennessee/Arkansas/Florida/@ MSU
Record : 19-12 (10-8)
RPI : #31
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida

#6 - Same as above but only beat Arkansas/@ MSU
Record : 18-13 (9-9)
RPI : #41
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ Florida, Tennessee, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida




So, basically, we are looking at finishing anywhere (probably) between 17-14 (8-10) and 20-11 (11-7), which would put us between #20 and #51 in the RPI as the range we can reasonably expect to finish.

Here are some interesting stats on at-large bids to the Tournament since they added the play-in games

Highest RPI Ranked Teams (Big Six Conferences) to miss the NCAA Tournament since the play-in game was added
2014 Missouri (#49)

Lowest RPI Ranked Teams (Big Six + MWC Conferences) to make the NCAA Tournament since the play-in game was added
2011 Clemson (#61)
2011 USC (#80)
2012 South Florida (#51)
2014 NC State (#54)
2015 Ole Miss (#57)
2016 Vanderbilt (#60)
2016 Michigan (#58)
2017 Providence (#55)
2017 Kansas State (#55)


Teams with a Top 50 RPI do not miss the NCAAT. Our worst case scenario (reasonably) has us right at that #50 line.

So...............bottom line, we're in pretty good shape.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25569 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:40 pm to
Good stuff here George

quote:

.......bottom line, we're in pretty good shape.

Famous last words before the inevitable collapse for every Bama fan

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Famous last words before the inevitable collapse for every Bama fan


Remember in 2016 when we were 16-9 and coming off of back to back wins in Gainesville and Baton Rouge? We were in good shape.

Then we lost 4 of 5
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:50 pm to
Remember in 2003 when we were 11-1 and ranked in the Top 10? We were in good shape.

Then we finished the year 6-10 and lost in the 1st round of the NCAAT
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13242 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

bottom line,


we better not lose to fricking Missouri
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

we better not lose to fricking Missouri


Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4693 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:15 pm to
I'm going with #5, but anticipate #6 just because Alabama basketball knows how to toy with my emotions.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
5143 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:22 pm to
Worst Losses : @ #123 Vanderbilt, #107 Minnesota, @ #84 Ole Miss, #71 UCF

I wouldn't say that.. we nearly won that game...
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30339 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:57 pm to
#5 is most likely and I will take it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

I wouldn't say that.. we nearly won that game...


It's a sub-100 loss.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

#5 is most likely and I will take it.


I think if we finished with 19 wins, a winning SEC record and a #30 RPI, we'd be sitting in #7-9 seed territory, depending on performance in the SECT.
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
885 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:25 pm to
Alabama has put together National Championship Calibre teams before.

It can be done at Bama.

Both C.M. and Wimp did it. I could name the teams but everyone knows which ones.

I think Avery can to. And with a little luck, something C.M. and Wimp never had, he’ll be the one to get us to the final four and beyond.

But Bama basketball isn’t Bama Football. Running Avery off too soon would be a huge mistake. It wasn’t Avery who ruined our brand.
And we once were a respected program, believe it or not.

This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13149 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:59 pm to
I still go my NIT hat on just saying...

Jimmy Buffet

Ah, the stories we could tell
And if it all blows up and goes to Hell
I wish that we could sit upon a bed in some motel
Just listen to the stories we could tell
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26323 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:15 pm to
I’m thinking we drop one at home, win @msu, and lose the rest of the road games
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:38 pm to
All we gotta win is 4 more games. 4 fricking games and we're in.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:26 pm to
I am trying real hard to keep the faith bros but every time I feel good about basketball we collapse. I won't be getting my hopes up yet but if we beat mizzou the faith will get a little stronger.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
6626 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:12 pm to
Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Way too many words. At first I was like, "What?" Then I was like, "Huh." Then I got a little board.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42010 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:19 pm to
Yeah I am like a dog who has been kicked too many times
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16164 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

I think if we finished with 19 wins, a winning SEC record and a #30 RPI, we'd be sitting in #7-9 seed territory, depending on performance in the SECT.


Completely agree. Any combination of wins from here to the end that gets us to 19-12 & 10-8 will put us solidly in the field. If the team plays up to potential, it's a goal that can be achieved without heroics.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

Then I got a little board.


Wood, plastic or message?
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