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re: G5 Go out and start your own playoff Championship, Kannel and Brando heads blowing up
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:43 pm to InsideTheTide
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:43 pm to InsideTheTide
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I agree, but it’s just not going to happen. No one would take it seriously. It would basically become the D2 of D1.
No one takes it seriously now
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:44 pm to RandySavage
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There is no other sport in the world where nearly half the teams enter the season with 0 shot to win no matter what they do. How does that make any sense to anybody?
What other 60 minute contact sport has almost 130 teams competing for a single title? Of course teams are going to be left out before the season starts. The "subdivision" shouldn't be as big as it is, for one, and not every schedule is equal for another.
What was the playoff committee supposed to do in the case of UCF? Put them in over Ohio State and Alabama because they had quality wins over... USF and Memphis? Were they supposed to just predict that they'd beat Auburn in the Peach Bowl and, at 13-0, justify inclusion over Oklahoma or Clemson?
Clearly, the G5 constitute a whole other football subdivision but nobody wants to go through the trouble of actually bumping them down. They will rattle their sabers all day but, deep down, they love the money that being in the same subdivision as the P5 teams brings.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:45 pm to RollTide1987
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I'm actually all for cutting the G5 out of the FBS and having the P5 forming its own league within the FBS. Then treat the G5 like the English Premiere League in Britain. The teams that are worthy to be in a P5 conference move up while those P5 teams that exude consistent badness move down to G5.
Do you really think the Indiana's and Vanderbilt's of the P5 are ever going to agree to a relegation system? Why would they? What do they gain from it?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:46 pm to StopRobot
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I have argued this for years.
I would argue that even if they can't compete immediately, the idea of one day being competitive is powerful and healthy for the sport, and even a system heavily rigged against the small guy is still a system they would compete in.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:48 pm to SEC FACT FINDER 1
Because beating Auburn’s arse in the peach bowl is more appealing then winning a g5 championship
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I would argue that even if they can't compete immediately, the idea of one day being competitive is powerful and healthy for the sport, and even a system heavily rigged against the small guy is still a system they would compete in.
But they cant compete in it. They simply will never have the schedule to compete
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:51 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I've been discussing this for years.
You're close, but it's a bit more complicated than that.
So basically you would just have to be good enough to make the Top 12, meaning just don't lose more then 2 games most years. Nevermind that the G5 teams are still going to lose 8 out of 10 times to the P5 teams they play in the first round, but in the rare instance they win they will then have to play 3 of the best P5 teams in the country to actually win it all.
Hell, this way actually makes it harder for them. Nevermind that it makes it a 16 or 17 game season for 1 or 2 teams each year. Do we just start these bowls the week after the championship games (in which case, you're basically just playing for a first round bye which doesn't mean anything when teams like Penn State are getting a pre-Playoff bye by not playing in their championship game).
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:55 pm to StopRobot
I don’t think the regular season means much if you can lose your last game, not play for conf title and then get 30 days off to play for the national title. That would mean the regular season and conf championships don’t mean shite if the committee likes you.
Everyone knows Bama has a top 4 team every year. They have signed the #1 class like 7yrs in a row, if you want parity....figure out why teams land 5*’s as backups year end year out. The NCAA should be all over teams that have that type of recruiting. There is only one reason for it......instead, the NCAA protects the sacred and goes balls to the walls on f’ing Ole Miss. and AU.
I don’t really care how they do the playoffs but UGa folks should know they had only one shot at getting in....win the SEC. You are not Bama and your arse will be left out with one loss and no East title.
Everyone knows Bama has a top 4 team every year. They have signed the #1 class like 7yrs in a row, if you want parity....figure out why teams land 5*’s as backups year end year out. The NCAA should be all over teams that have that type of recruiting. There is only one reason for it......instead, the NCAA protects the sacred and goes balls to the walls on f’ing Ole Miss. and AU.
I don’t really care how they do the playoffs but UGa folks should know they had only one shot at getting in....win the SEC. You are not Bama and your arse will be left out with one loss and no East title.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:57 pm to StopRobot
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But they cant compete in it. They simply will never have the schedule to compete
Maybe that's true, but letting them "build" towards better performance is still the right way to go. Incentive and competition is always a good thing.
Rank the conferences based upon every single out of conference game. Especially bowl games. Give the best performing conferences automatic bids and slots to next years playoff.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:59 pm to tylerdurden24
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So basically you would just have to be good enough to make the Top 12, meaning just don't lose more then 2 games most years. Nevermind that the G5 teams are still going to lose 8 out of 10 times to the P5 teams they play in the first round, but in the rare instance they win they will then have to play 3 of the best P5 teams in the country to actually win it all.
Sounds perfect to me.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:59 pm to AUX3
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Everyone knows Bama has a top 4 team every year. They have signed the #1 class like 7yrs in a row, if you want parity....figure out why teams land 5*’s as backups year end year out. The NCAA should be all over teams that have that type of recruiting. There is only one reason for it......instead, the NCAA protects the sacred and goes balls to the walls
Why does your AD allow it to continue? I mean he never speaks up about the rampant cheating at Bama. Is he being paid secretly by Bama? Is he a covert agent?
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on f’ing Ole Miss. and AU
Didnt you admit you had a parent solicit payoffs then the next year you had four players go on television and admit to being paid? Then the NCAA did nothing? Crazy way to F someone
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Rank the conferences based upon every single out of conference game. Especially bowl games. Give the best performing conferences automatic bids and slots to next years playoff.
Laughable. Basing the playoffs one year on the previous season.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:02 pm to TeLeFaWx
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So basically you would just have to be good enough to make the Top 12, meaning just don't lose more then 2 games most years. Nevermind that the G5 teams are still going to lose 8 out of 10 times to the P5 teams they play in the first round, but in the rare instance they win they will then have to play 3 of the best P5 teams in the country to actually win it all.
The problem is the G5 teams are going to spend a season beating up on the Little Sisters of the Poor teams and demand a spot in the playoff
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:02 pm to AUX3
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I don’t think the regular season means much if you can lose your last game, not play for conf title and then get 30 days off to play for the national title. That would mean the regular season and conf championships don’t mean shite if the committee likes you.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not all that happy that Bama basically backed into the CFP, got an extra week off, and got to play a bowl game in New Orleans while we had to fly to and from California a week before our matchup.
That being said, Bama backing into the CFP could have been avoided if Ohio State doesn't get blown out by Iowa or if Penn State doesn't shite the bed down the stretch or if Wisconsin wins their conference championship or if USCw doesn't get blown out by Notre Dame or if Notre Dame doesn't get blown out by Miami. It's not like this is a regular occurrence in the Playoff era.
The regular season made this happen and it was a fricking blast to watch down the stretch. Just because it pisses off some fans because it has benefited a team they don't like isn't a good reaosn to blow the whole thing up.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:05 pm to SEC FACT FINDER 1
If a G5 team wants a chance to make the CFP final 4 they should schedule 3 games against good (typically ranked) P5 teams. Otherwise go sit down at the kids table and shut up.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:05 pm to StopRobot
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The problem is the G5 teams are going to spend a season beating up on the Little Sisters of the Poor teams and demand a spot in the playoff
True, but look at this bracket:
If UCF won out, they would have beaten Penn State, Clemson, Alabama and then likely UGA.
If win those 4 games, you have a pretty good claim.
And if you didn't you win, then you were fodder for a team like Clemson. A reward for being the number one overall seed.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:06 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Sounds perfect to me.
Sounds like devaluing the best regular season of any sport in the world all so a couple of smaller teams with weaker schedules can have an extremely limited chance at winning a playoff game, let alone even sniff a championship to me
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:06 pm to SEC FACT FINDER 1
They really should. They'll never get a chance in the current setup
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:06 pm to SEC FACT FINDER 1
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All these Anti-SEC so called talking heads would shut up and move on.
No, they'd find something else to bitch about.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:12 pm to SEC FACT FINDER 1
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Let the G5 start their own playoffs:
I've argued this ever since the formation of the P5 and G5. The whole point of the break then was more power for the P5 teams (thus the Power 5 designation) to make their own decisions independent of the G5 schools.
The G5 schools don't have nearly the money and resources that the P5 institutions do but the NCAA was giving them equal status at the policy decisions table. They were also benefiting monetarily at the expense of the P5.
It's time to make the split complete. The P5 schools are still funding many of the G5 programs by allowing them to compete on the field. The Peach Bowl is a perfect example of this conundrum.
The Auburn team that showed up to play UCF was simply not the same sky-high squad that faced Georgia in the SECCG. It's lunacy to think that UCF could have beaten Auburn on December 2 in the Mercedes Benz Dome.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 8:26 pm
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