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re: G5 Go out and start your own playoff Championship, Kannel and Brando heads blowing up
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:12 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:12 pm to TeLeFaWx
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If UCF won out, they would have beaten Penn State, Clemson, Alabama and then likely UGA.
Would never happen, especially not all 4 four in a row.
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And if you didn't you win, then you were fodder for a team like Clemson. A reward for being the number one overall seed.
Fodder? More like Clemson plays a scrappy UCF team in a game it would never have to play otherwise in the current 4 team format. It's literally just adding games for the sake of adding games. Which is fine if your only goal is to make money, but it's going to have some serious consequences on the back end.
For example, in this proposed 12 team bracket, you've just taken bowl opportunities away from 8 teams so 4 teams can play in/win 2 bowls and 2 teams can play in/win 3 bowl and 1 team can have all that plus the national title.
And I'll tell you right now, the 8 teams that screwed out of those 8 bowl slots are going to be G5 teams with smaller fanbases and brand name appeal
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 8:13 pm
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:12 pm to tylerdurden24
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Sounds like devaluing the best regular season of any sport in the world all so a couple of smaller teams with weaker schedules can have an extremely limited chance at winning a playoff game, let alone even sniff a championship to me
Was UGA's regular season devalued because they lost to Auburn? The same argument for not going to 4 was that it would devalue the regular season. Well in the old system, UGA would be left out because of the regular season loss. So which is it?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:13 pm to tylerdurden24
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Fodder? More like Clemson plays a scrappy UCF team in a game it would never have to play otherwise in the current 4 team format. It's literally just adding games for the sake of adding games. Which is fine if your only goal is to make money, but it's going to have some serious consequences on the back end.
The goal in this system is to make every single game matter. Every bowl game. Every out of conference game. Real tangible value to playoff standing and how difficult your draw will be if you're good enough to make it.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:18 pm to SEC FACT FINDER 1
The easiest solution is split into FBS1 (P5 + Notre Dame) and FBS2 (G5 + the 3 other independents) and have an 8 team playoff for each.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:30 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Was UGA's regular season devalued because they lost to Auburn?
What? No. We won 11 out of 12 games in our regular season, thereby winning our division.
Devaluing the regular season would be a 4 loss South Carolina winning their division and beating Auburn for the SECCG and then being included in the 4 team Playoff. All of a sudden, losing 4 games doesn't really matter so long as the breaks you neede to get them the division happen. UGA already had the division won before we ever lost to Auburn.
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The same argument for not going to 4 was that it would devalue the regular season.
And it turns out that it has actually helped the regular season because it only adds one more game beyond the bowls to decide the national champion. I think they've found the best system for the sport; they will never make everyone happy.
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Well in the old system, UGA would be left out because of the regular season loss. So which is it?
It's this system. This system would have had 2007 and 2002 UGA included in the Playoff. This system works.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:33 pm to Korin
How about naming UCF the G5 national champion, and the annual G5 national champion gets a NY6 game against a big boy.
I’ll be downvotes but I’m for the American adding BYU, Fresno, Boise and maybe one more team Out West and that being a sixth power conference.
schools like UCF and USF are going to have massive alumni bases in 25 years. UCF is the second largest college in the country and it is barely 50 years old.
I’ll be downvotes but I’m for the American adding BYU, Fresno, Boise and maybe one more team Out West and that being a sixth power conference.
schools like UCF and USF are going to have massive alumni bases in 25 years. UCF is the second largest college in the country and it is barely 50 years old.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Every bowl game.
This has never been the goal. The only time every bowl ever mattered was when there wer only 6 or 7 of them and they had conference affiliations that pitted the #1 team versus #8 so everyone was forced to guess at the end as to who was the best.
Ever since the bowls expanded to the 40 something they have now, the goal of bowl games has been to produce ad revenue for ESPN and the schools. Period. Those game don't matter and never will matter because they're branding exercises and glorified scrimmages.
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Every out of conference game
These already matter, fairly heavily actually. Oklahoma beating Ohio State was the entire reason they were allowed to gloss over a homes loss to Iowa State. Clemson beating Auburn and South Carolina was the whole reason the Syracuse loss was more or less wiped from the record books so far as the media seemed concerned. Then there was UGA beating Notre Dame which was almost single handedly the reason we were ranked #1 for the time that we were.
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Real tangible value to playoff standing and how difficult your draw will be if you're good enough to make it.
There will never not be controversy over the last slot in any playoff. 4 teams, 8 teams, 12 teams. That last slot is going to be bickered over every single year when you have 120+ other teams trying to get in.
If you're trying to avoid controversy with an expanded playoff then you're running a fool's errand.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:29 pm to anc
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I’ll be downvotes but I’m for the American adding BYU, Fresno, Boise and maybe one more team Out West and that being a sixth power conference.
I mean it's really their only other realistic alternative short of being picked up individually by the current P5. Of course, two problems here:
1. Just because you assemble all the best G5 schools in one conference doesn't mean they get to label themselves a P5 conference. P5 conferences are largely hallmarked based on the revenue they produce through TV contracts and other streams, sharing that revenue amongst all schools, thereby raising ability to afford facilities, coaches, support staffs, attract recruits, etc
2. We are already leaving one P5 conference out of a 4 team playoff. Adding a 6th conference is only going to exacerbate the bickering.
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