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Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:31 am
Put this on main board but wanted to ask y'all too
This system is better than the BCS but broken still. 4 teams in only when there are 5 power conferences decided by a committee of people going off of nothing but vague phrases about what matters. That's what we have. Anyone disagree with me and tell me this is a good system? I propose 2 solutions
1. Stay at 4 but use computer and human rankings together to pick the top 4 even if all 4 are in the sun belt
2. 8 team 5 conference champs get it, 3 at larges with one gaurenteed to G5 team that finishes highest. 1st week is played at higher seeds field, then it becomes neutrals like now. I prefer this because I want to see the G5 at least have a chance I mean let's see what UCF can do? No more than 8 ever though. If you are arguing if you're the 8 or 9 seed you don't deserve a spot.
If you disagree and like this system feel free to say so and why, also which of my solutions you prefer or add your own. I also acknowledge that last night was essentially the 1st rd in my scenario just with no group of 5 team.
This system is better than the BCS but broken still. 4 teams in only when there are 5 power conferences decided by a committee of people going off of nothing but vague phrases about what matters. That's what we have. Anyone disagree with me and tell me this is a good system? I propose 2 solutions
1. Stay at 4 but use computer and human rankings together to pick the top 4 even if all 4 are in the sun belt
2. 8 team 5 conference champs get it, 3 at larges with one gaurenteed to G5 team that finishes highest. 1st week is played at higher seeds field, then it becomes neutrals like now. I prefer this because I want to see the G5 at least have a chance I mean let's see what UCF can do? No more than 8 ever though. If you are arguing if you're the 8 or 9 seed you don't deserve a spot.
If you disagree and like this system feel free to say so and why, also which of my solutions you prefer or add your own. I also acknowledge that last night was essentially the 1st rd in my scenario just with no group of 5 team.
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:33 am to td01241
Too hung over to even think about this.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:36 am to td01241
Expanding beyond the current format negates the value of the regular season matchups and more importantly, invalidates the conference championship games. We've seen how very different rematches can go, and it sucks when it doesn't go your way.
That said, there have only been 7 regular season rematches in 25 years of SECCG. To expand to 5+3 will make that sort of thing likely the norm, not the exception. You'll be rewarding not winning your division/Conference.
That said, there have only been 7 regular season rematches in 25 years of SECCG. To expand to 5+3 will make that sort of thing likely the norm, not the exception. You'll be rewarding not winning your division/Conference.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:32 am to td01241
Scenario 1 was the BCS model. A computer formula using human polls. Once people learn the computer metrics, the human polls get pushed and pulled to dictate a narrative.
The current system can work with transparency. 1000 threads on the main board and no one is listing a team's full resume'. List the 5 best wins, and with other things remaining equal (number of losses), it should be obvious who gets in.
The current system can work with transparency. 1000 threads on the main board and no one is listing a team's full resume'. List the 5 best wins, and with other things remaining equal (number of losses), it should be obvious who gets in.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:21 am to td01241
Know that has been discussed ad nauseum by the talking heads, but it really comes down to whether you want to be more likely to crown the most deserving team or the best team. I think the current system does a pretty good job of balancing both but probably skews towards “best team” (See Ohio State getting in last year)
A larger playoff helps you be more confident that the most deserving team is crowned. A team that repeatedly beats others in a single elimination format is by definition “deserving”. And matching up only conference champs makes the conference championship games into a de facto first round of the playoff. But is “most deserving” really what we want?
For example, Alabama is the best team right now, and would be favored over anyone (maybe pickem with Clemson). Losing to auburn didn’t change this. Not making the sec championship didnt chance this. The current system acknowledges this and gives them a good shot of getting in. They’d probably be a lock if FSU wasn’t a horrible disappointment.
The current system could have acknowledged that UGA was among the best in 2012 and many other years and given us a shot despite not winning SEC. I like the weighting and flexibility of putting in “best” teams that may not be as deserving.
Separate argument on how you define “deserving” anyway. You could argue Alabama is deserving due to all the effort and results they get from recruiting.
A larger playoff helps you be more confident that the most deserving team is crowned. A team that repeatedly beats others in a single elimination format is by definition “deserving”. And matching up only conference champs makes the conference championship games into a de facto first round of the playoff. But is “most deserving” really what we want?
For example, Alabama is the best team right now, and would be favored over anyone (maybe pickem with Clemson). Losing to auburn didn’t change this. Not making the sec championship didnt chance this. The current system acknowledges this and gives them a good shot of getting in. They’d probably be a lock if FSU wasn’t a horrible disappointment.
The current system could have acknowledged that UGA was among the best in 2012 and many other years and given us a shot despite not winning SEC. I like the weighting and flexibility of putting in “best” teams that may not be as deserving.
Separate argument on how you define “deserving” anyway. You could argue Alabama is deserving due to all the effort and results they get from recruiting.
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