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re: LC#7 - 2nd Fastest on the Team?
Posted on 10/21/17 at 9:36 am to meansonny
Posted on 10/21/17 at 9:36 am to meansonny
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You are really worked up about the track times.
I'm just pointing out that it's extremely unlikely Carter is the 2nd fastest player on our team, simply based on math. If he has a faster top end than these guys with comfortably sub 11 second track speed, that means he must be an extremely slow starter, like 5+ second 40 times. If you really want to debate something like this, look at the numbers not anecdotes.
For example, take Mecole Hardman who ran a 10.64 100m as recently as a couple of years ago; he's one of several in that #2 range behind Stokes. Say Hardman has lost a bit and can only run 10.8 now. If Carter could run the last half of a 100 meter course at an average speed equal to Hardman (not an unreasonable proposition if he truly has a faster top end speed), then he'd run the first half around 0.7 seconds slower (probably more than that because I doubt he can run an 11.5 100m at his current weight). Since he's accelerating throughout the first half, most of that first half time differential is in the first 40 yards. So if Hardman runs a 4.40 40 yard dash, Carter will run the 40 in 5.1 (or more) seconds. If Carter averaged the last 50m faster than Hardman, his first half speed would be even slower relative to Mecole.
In case that confuses you, I'm not saying Lorenzo will run a 5.10 40 at the combine. I'm saying it's mathematically unlikely that he has a faster top end speed than Mecole (or Stokes, Simmons, Speed, etc.), even in pads. All of the anecdotes about Justin Scott Wesley or Chris Johnson, etc., don't change the simple mathematics of speed and distance.
This post was edited on 10/21/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 10/21/17 at 9:46 am to wdhalgren
Again.. track speeds have to do with quick starts from the blocks. It has to do with weather and conditions.
Edit to add: people run different on grass, on concrete, on rubber, indoors, and outdoors. Some athletes have surfaces that they perform better relative to their peers than other surfaces.
Do you disagree?
Edit to add: people run different on grass, on concrete, on rubber, indoors, and outdoors. Some athletes have surfaces that they perform better relative to their peers than other surfaces.
Do you disagree?
This post was edited on 10/21/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/21/17 at 11:12 pm to wdhalgren
You also have to factor in running in full pads. Some players lose a lot of speed in pads. Carter may be a player that doesn't lose speed in full pads.
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