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re: Harrick Scandal in hindsight
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:31 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:31 pm to Crowknowsbest
I get what you're saying, but they've couched all of their remarks as not being against institutional policies *at the time*... Guess what policies will be getting a refresh so they can say that it is all in the past and behind them.
I don't disagree that a small segment of the population will look at it as a black mark, but I do think that:
a) it's a smaller portion of the population than you think - perception at large is more important than perception in limited groups. If a UNC degree is still seen in the general public as a coveted thing, then they likely see little impact in enrollment/admissions - In fact, I'd say the percentage of individuals that are aware enough to care, likely already saw UNC as a step below other programs. It likely doesn't do much but elevate a UVA or similar school. It's not like it's going to knock UNC down from a top 5 public school to a #20 or something.
b) I disagree that it will be as long lasting as you might think. Again, we live in a really fast news cycle world. It won't take long for this to get overshadowed by something else... hell the current basketball stuff is enough to distract many, but they'll have one, maybe 2 basketball seasons before it likely is a footnote at best in the court of public opinion. See earlier comments about positioning statements about "at the time"... that will likely be the party line for as long as it takes to sweep this one under the rug behind them.
Not saying there will be "zero" impact, but I just don't think that it will be that big, and I definitely don't think that UGA would have been any worse off by taking a similar approach. Just my opinion though...
I don't disagree that a small segment of the population will look at it as a black mark, but I do think that:
a) it's a smaller portion of the population than you think - perception at large is more important than perception in limited groups. If a UNC degree is still seen in the general public as a coveted thing, then they likely see little impact in enrollment/admissions - In fact, I'd say the percentage of individuals that are aware enough to care, likely already saw UNC as a step below other programs. It likely doesn't do much but elevate a UVA or similar school. It's not like it's going to knock UNC down from a top 5 public school to a #20 or something.
b) I disagree that it will be as long lasting as you might think. Again, we live in a really fast news cycle world. It won't take long for this to get overshadowed by something else... hell the current basketball stuff is enough to distract many, but they'll have one, maybe 2 basketball seasons before it likely is a footnote at best in the court of public opinion. See earlier comments about positioning statements about "at the time"... that will likely be the party line for as long as it takes to sweep this one under the rug behind them.
Not saying there will be "zero" impact, but I just don't think that it will be that big, and I definitely don't think that UGA would have been any worse off by taking a similar approach. Just my opinion though...
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:41 pm to fibonaccisquared
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a) it's a smaller portion of the population than you think - perception at large is more important than perception in limited groups. If a UNC degree is still seen in the general public as a coveted thing, then they likely see little impact in enrollment/admissions - In fact, I'd say the percentage of individuals that are aware enough to care, likely already saw UNC as a step below other programs. It likely doesn't do much but elevate a UVA or similar school. It's not like it's going to knock UNC down from a top 5 public school to a #20 or something.
Like I said, I might be jaded by living in Virginia around a lot of UNC people and then people who went to more-or-less peer schools. I know for a fact that the "were you an AFAM major?" digs cut UNC alums deep because there's substance to it. People are joking, but not really. High school kids hear that, and IMO it has to have some effect. I realize that that's anecdotal, but it's also anecdotal within a critical out-of-state base for UNC.
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