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re: Harrick Scandal in hindsight
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:22 pm to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:22 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Nothing about *how* UGA handled the situation did anything to meaningfully impact the results. It was comical/humorous, and the easy target of a joke, but at the end of the day, it was going to get forgotten pretty quickly because it wasn't pervasive as in the case of UNC.
If UGA had attempted to fight the charges, the jokes still would have happened, and people would have more ammo to say that UGA cared more about athletic success than academic achievement. That's a reputation SEC schools have been fighting for a long time. At that time, an student athlete academic scandal wouldn't change your average person's opinion on UGA as a school. Locally it might, but not nationally. The jokes were told, UGA took its medicine, and everyone moved on.
There previously wasn't any such ammo against UNC. There is now. They fought the case on the basis that their school lacked integrity to an extent that permeated the entire institution. Most people who are more serious about school than sports will judge them for that, I would think. It will be a black mark on their reputation for a long time.
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:31 pm to Crowknowsbest
I get what you're saying, but they've couched all of their remarks as not being against institutional policies *at the time*... Guess what policies will be getting a refresh so they can say that it is all in the past and behind them.
I don't disagree that a small segment of the population will look at it as a black mark, but I do think that:
a) it's a smaller portion of the population than you think - perception at large is more important than perception in limited groups. If a UNC degree is still seen in the general public as a coveted thing, then they likely see little impact in enrollment/admissions - In fact, I'd say the percentage of individuals that are aware enough to care, likely already saw UNC as a step below other programs. It likely doesn't do much but elevate a UVA or similar school. It's not like it's going to knock UNC down from a top 5 public school to a #20 or something.
b) I disagree that it will be as long lasting as you might think. Again, we live in a really fast news cycle world. It won't take long for this to get overshadowed by something else... hell the current basketball stuff is enough to distract many, but they'll have one, maybe 2 basketball seasons before it likely is a footnote at best in the court of public opinion. See earlier comments about positioning statements about "at the time"... that will likely be the party line for as long as it takes to sweep this one under the rug behind them.
Not saying there will be "zero" impact, but I just don't think that it will be that big, and I definitely don't think that UGA would have been any worse off by taking a similar approach. Just my opinion though...
I don't disagree that a small segment of the population will look at it as a black mark, but I do think that:
a) it's a smaller portion of the population than you think - perception at large is more important than perception in limited groups. If a UNC degree is still seen in the general public as a coveted thing, then they likely see little impact in enrollment/admissions - In fact, I'd say the percentage of individuals that are aware enough to care, likely already saw UNC as a step below other programs. It likely doesn't do much but elevate a UVA or similar school. It's not like it's going to knock UNC down from a top 5 public school to a #20 or something.
b) I disagree that it will be as long lasting as you might think. Again, we live in a really fast news cycle world. It won't take long for this to get overshadowed by something else... hell the current basketball stuff is enough to distract many, but they'll have one, maybe 2 basketball seasons before it likely is a footnote at best in the court of public opinion. See earlier comments about positioning statements about "at the time"... that will likely be the party line for as long as it takes to sweep this one under the rug behind them.
Not saying there will be "zero" impact, but I just don't think that it will be that big, and I definitely don't think that UGA would have been any worse off by taking a similar approach. Just my opinion though...
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:34 pm to Crowknowsbest
I think the bigger admission is what is pointed out in the GTP post I linked to.
If the NCAA determines that the institutions have the ability to cheapen a degree to whatever means they see fit, by offering fraudulent classes, they are undercutting the value of the very thing they see as "fit compensation" for the student-athletes they are bringing in. At what point does this then re-spark the conversation for paying players.
If the NCAA determines that the institutions have the ability to cheapen a degree to whatever means they see fit, by offering fraudulent classes, they are undercutting the value of the very thing they see as "fit compensation" for the student-athletes they are bringing in. At what point does this then re-spark the conversation for paying players.
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