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Question for Ole Miss fans about O
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:55 am
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:55 am
Was there any part of you that thought the O hire would work at LSU or did you know that he would just pick right up where he left off at Ole Miss?
I'm sure y'all are loving every minute of this train wreck and I don't blame you one bit for doing so.
I'm sure y'all are loving every minute of this train wreck and I don't blame you one bit for doing so.
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Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:56 am to Brazos
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he would just pick right up where he left off at Ole Miss?
Everyone knew this was going to happen. Well, everyone other than LSU fans.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:30 am to Brazos
When we ended up with O, he was like our 7th choice. Most of the guys at the top of our list wouldn't even interview. Then ones that did ultimately took better jobs. To me, having to pick O was a sad indictment of our program.
For LSU, it was a similar situation. But I saw it more as an indictment of their fan base and administration. Incredibly unrealistic expectations combined with an incompetent administration made the job toxic. LSU's two "targets" were never coming there. Aleva staked his job on either Herman or Jimbo. When they melted on him he literally didn't have anywhere else to turn.
Aleva is just as much a dead man walking as O. He should go first. Then O will eventually get canned.
But the problem won't change. LSU can't attract the handful of coaches who would be acceptable to the delusional fan base. It is a vicious cycle.
For LSU, it was a similar situation. But I saw it more as an indictment of their fan base and administration. Incredibly unrealistic expectations combined with an incompetent administration made the job toxic. LSU's two "targets" were never coming there. Aleva staked his job on either Herman or Jimbo. When they melted on him he literally didn't have anywhere else to turn.
Aleva is just as much a dead man walking as O. He should go first. Then O will eventually get canned.
But the problem won't change. LSU can't attract the handful of coaches who would be acceptable to the delusional fan base. It is a vicious cycle.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:45 am to Brazos
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Was there any part of you that thought the O hire would work at LSU or did you know that he would just pick right up where he left off at Ole Miss?
Here is my honest answer. While HC at Ole Miss, he brought in some serious talent that included alot of guys that went on to the NFL. The "missing piece" that he didn't get put in place was a QB. He recruited Snead, who had a NFL caliber arm, but he never got the chance to have him in a game since he had to sit out a year. I know many laugh at Snead, but Nutt ruined him. If you watched tape on kid, you'd see where he became gun shy after his 1st year at Ole Miss. But, I truly believe if Coach O was given another year and had Snead (along with Dan Werner as his QB coach), then Coach O might still be the HC at Ole Miss today.
It's hard to rag on the guy too much when it was obvious that he was busting his arse. At the same time, there were those at Ole Miss that wanted to see him fail, because they felt he didn't "fit" at Ole Miss. Add to that the media that bashed him at every turn (including Neal McCready who was working in Mobile at the time), and the guy had the deck stacked against him from day 1. It was a no win situation for him. Ole Miss fans were pulling for the team to lose just so they could get rid of him and put one of "their own" in as HC at Ole Miss. The fanbase was truly split about him because he was viewed as an outsider and not someone that fit in.
After leaving Ole Miss, he admitted the things that he did wrong - the whole "wild boyz" crap, to over working the players. So, the guy isn't dumb, as he learned from his mistakes. And, he took what he learned and changed how he treated players. How many other coaches at his age are willing to admit their mistakes and actually change their approaches? I would guess that it's not many.
Having said all of that, I was actually pulling for him to do good at USC, and then again at LSU. It's one thing for a coach to admit no faults and to go through the motions, but that's not what you get with Coach O. I'm still pulling for the guy to succeed.
Let the downvotes flow...........
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 8:24 am
Posted on 10/6/17 at 7:02 am to Brazos
After his success as interim at USC and last year at LSU, I thought he would be successful.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 8:36 am
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:16 am to Brazos
I had hoped he wouldn’t be this bad so he would last a little longer.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:26 am to Brazos
I just listened to Landry's podcast about how LSU ended up with O. Alleva has fricked LSU.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:41 am to Brazos
Don't believe the shite Ole Miss fans are going to tell you in response to this question. They were all in on Orgeron. They all had "O The Coach" bumper stickers on their car similar to the old "W The President" George W. Bush bumper stickers.
They're all in on everyone until they practice their revisionist history. They were all in on Freeze too, but now they curse him. They were all in on Luke (most of them), wanting Ole Miss to remove his "interim" tag, but now, they are delusionally talking about Mike Leach, Mike Norvell, or any other coach most people with common sense know wouldn't touch that program with a 10 foot pole.
They're all in on everyone until they practice their revisionist history. They were all in on Freeze too, but now they curse him. They were all in on Luke (most of them), wanting Ole Miss to remove his "interim" tag, but now, they are delusionally talking about Mike Leach, Mike Norvell, or any other coach most people with common sense know wouldn't touch that program with a 10 foot pole.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:42 am to Brazos
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geauxnavybeatbama
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I honestly think coach O will be a consistent 10 win season coach. He seems to have grown up, we will see. I have lots of alcohol just in case.
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TiderNAL
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Ed Orgeron has exactly 10 wins under his belt in 3 seasons as a head coach, not including his interim stints at USC & LSU. Good luck.
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Nissanmaxima
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And he will match that number this year. So your point is? quote: why not include these? Because don't you know he is only graded on what he did at Ole Miss 10 years ago? Thank God no one grades Belichick and Carrol on what they did at their previous stints in the NFL because after all, a coach can't get better We all know that Saban tore it up in Miami!
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:24 am to Brazos
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thought the O hire would work at LSU
I think it still think he has a good probability of working out. This year and next will prob be pretty difficult. I stated this in another thread that Coach O had a lot of variables going into the season.
1st yr HC (last yr he was just holding it together)
OLine transfers
New Coords still implementing their systems
Arden Key (Has to be a lot behind closed doors)
Young Secondary and WRs
Guice out
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:38 am to Brazos
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I'm sure y'all are loving every minute of this train wreck and I don't blame you one bit for doing so.
I am loving it, but also feel a bit bad about it at the same time. Both of our teams blow chunks this year, so we can just get shite faced this year at the tailgate and stop worrying about it.
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