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Baker Mayfield or Johnny Manziel
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:05 pm
Just heard espn say that Baker Mayfield was a better Johnny Manziel. So who would you rather on your college team... Mayfield or Manziel?
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:05 pm to ovo225
Mayfield has a better supporting cast.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:06 pm to ovo225
Cam
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:06 pm to ovo225
Baker.
Not a druggie.
Not a loser.
Not insane.
Not a wussy.
Not a druggie.
Not a loser.
Not insane.
Not a wussy.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:06 pm to ovo225
Manziel and it's not close.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:09 pm to ovo225
Tebow
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:09 pm to ovo225
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Baker Mayfield was a better Johnny Manziel
What does that even mean?
As for who I'd want on my team ....
Johnny done messed up good when he left school early; but boy could that kid play some college ball.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:10 pm to KingGator81
But to answer the question - Mayfield
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:10 pm to EKG
Now are we talking about Freshman Baker Mayfield who washed out of Texas Tech or Junior/Senior Baker Mayfield at Oklahoma?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:17 pm to ovo225
I'd take Manziel. I love Mayfield but he has had a better supporting cast. Manziel was magic, he changed a whole program.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:19 pm to jfran23
A better supporting cast where? 
How many 1st RD draft picks did Manziel have on his team again?
How many 1st RD draft picks did Manziel have on his team again?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:20 pm to ovo225
Jaker Maynziel
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:21 pm to ovo225
Johnny Football was much better but they have the same mentality. Baker is my favorite player since Johnny. Also they did tons of cocaine in Houston on Friday in 2016 and that’s a large reason why OU lost to Houston. First hand story from a guy that was there.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:21 pm to ovo225
Nick Fitzgerald
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:23 pm to TeLeFaWx
In what way was Manziel "much better" than Baker?
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
For comparison:
Baker Mayfield (2013): 218-340-9, 2,315 yards, 12 TD, 88 carries, 190 yards, 3 TD
Johnny Manziel (2012): 295-434-9, 3,706 yards, 26 TD, 201 carries, 1,410 yards, 21 TD
Baker Mayfield (2015): 239-395-7, 3,700 yards, 36 TD, 141 carries, 405 yards, 7 TD
Johnny Manziel (2013): 300-429-13, 4,114 yards, 37 TD, 144 carries, 759 yards, 9 TD
So, to properly compare.
In their first season:
Passing Yards - Manziel by 1,391 (even taking Mayfield's average over 8 games and stretching it to 13 and he has only 50 more yards than Manziel)
Completion % - Manziel by 3.5%
Passing Touchdowns - Manziel by 14 (Manziel still beats him by 6 if you stretch Mayfield's numbers to 13 games)
Interceptions Thrown - Mayfield threw the same number in 5 fewer games.
Rushing yards - Manziel by over 1,200. (Mayfield averaged just over 2 yards per carry, so I'm not even going to bother pushing it out)
Rushing TD - Manziel by 18 (see above)
2nd year player comparison
Passing yards - Manziel by 414
Completion percentage - Manziel by nearly 10%
Passing TD - Manziel by 1
Interceptions thrown - Manziel threw 6 more
Rushing yards - Manziel by 354
Yards per carry - Manziel by almost 3 ypc
Rushing TD - Manziel by 2
You can't use Mayfield's 3rd and 4th year as accurate data points.
Baker Mayfield (2013): 218-340-9, 2,315 yards, 12 TD, 88 carries, 190 yards, 3 TD
Johnny Manziel (2012): 295-434-9, 3,706 yards, 26 TD, 201 carries, 1,410 yards, 21 TD
Baker Mayfield (2015): 239-395-7, 3,700 yards, 36 TD, 141 carries, 405 yards, 7 TD
Johnny Manziel (2013): 300-429-13, 4,114 yards, 37 TD, 144 carries, 759 yards, 9 TD
So, to properly compare.
In their first season:
Passing Yards - Manziel by 1,391 (even taking Mayfield's average over 8 games and stretching it to 13 and he has only 50 more yards than Manziel)
Completion % - Manziel by 3.5%
Passing Touchdowns - Manziel by 14 (Manziel still beats him by 6 if you stretch Mayfield's numbers to 13 games)
Interceptions Thrown - Mayfield threw the same number in 5 fewer games.
Rushing yards - Manziel by over 1,200. (Mayfield averaged just over 2 yards per carry, so I'm not even going to bother pushing it out)
Rushing TD - Manziel by 18 (see above)
2nd year player comparison
Passing yards - Manziel by 414
Completion percentage - Manziel by nearly 10%
Passing TD - Manziel by 1
Interceptions thrown - Manziel threw 6 more
Rushing yards - Manziel by 354
Yards per carry - Manziel by almost 3 ypc
Rushing TD - Manziel by 2
You can't use Mayfield's 3rd and 4th year as accurate data points.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:24 pm to CharlotteSooner
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In what way was Manziel "much better" than Baker?
Faster. More elusive. More accurate. Better arm.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:24 pm to CharlotteSooner
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How many 1st RD draft picks did Manziel have on his team again?
Luke Joeckel, Mike Evans, Jake Matthews, and Cedric Ogbuehi
4 over 3 drafts.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:26 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Not sure how anyone could legitamitely compare the two
The answer is manziel
The answer is manziel
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:28 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Faster. More elusive. More accurate. Better arm.
Manziel ran a 4.65 40 yard dash. Baker is faster than that. More accurate? No evidence of that. More elusive? I think not. Better arm? Nope
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