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Is this coaching or culture?

Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:34 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31159 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:34 pm
I mean, the Aggy meltdown wasn't exactly a surprise. Feels like they're just wired to choke the way they did. Feel more cultural to me.

Put pretty much anyone in Sumlin's place and does the outcome really change?
Posted by Roger Wilco
Xenon
Member since Aug 2017
268 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:35 pm to
I feel like there is a correlation between a player dancing on the sideline with a mace and blowing a 34 point lead
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80418 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:41 pm to
Let's ask an individual who served in the Old Guard and was in the Pentagon when September 11th happened and then played linebacker from 2006-2007 at A&M:

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LB Mark Dodge: "I'm embarrassed. I feel for the players. The culture of "swag" that has been created around the A&M program is driving the play and decision making across the board. When successful, the team and coaches are great. But in adversity, the team can't dig out and get back into it. The old saying, "Act like you've been there before," goes a long way. Keeps people focused and even keel. Without that emotions run too high and too low with no middle ground. This is a culture issue, players and coaches playing & working hard but built on a foundation of over-confidence and emotion. This is and has been our program under Coach Sumlin. We shouldn't be surprised."
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
2561 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:43 pm to
It's culture. Stubborn coaches that have created a culture of entitlement. Sure, they are confident when winning. However, when they get hit they fall over like a bunch of pussies.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Feel more cultural to me.



How? LSU has had some atrocious decades, but they're still able to come back and be a powerhouse. What 'culture' do you ascribe to them? 'A culture of losing' isn't an informative answer. UF had one of those and became world-class for many years. TAMU is about as passionate about football as any SEC program not named LSU/Bama/Auburn/Tennessee. I should probably throw in the Razorbacks and UGA too. But that collapse wasn't about 'culture.' Neither Sumlin nor the players have that much of a history with the program. Sumlin is from Alabama and played at...some B10 school, and the players are just kids.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6776 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:58 pm to
To me it's the embodiment of everything I think of when I think of Texas football from high school through college: loud, arrogant, unfounded delusions of grander, and, most importantly, soft as hell.
Posted by BB1977
Member since Nov 2012
161 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:06 pm to
I believe it's both coaching and culture. Sumlin carries himself like he's got everything under control. The truth of the matter is, if it wasn't for Manziel, his record would suck. A&M isn't any better now than they were before Sumlin coaching wise. With all the talent he can choose from, this idiot still can't find a decent quarterback. Coaching at the University of Houston and coaching in big boy football is two completely different animals. Just like Herman at Texas.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7742 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
They blew a 34 point lead against a team that went 4-8 last year. That's unacceptable by SEC standards. And it's not the first time something similar has happened with Sumlin.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:28 pm to
imo, culture doesn't have anything to do with that loss. it was 100% coaching. they blew a 5 TD lead for god's sake. that would be very hard to do even if you planned it. the players obviously did not execute in the second half and they got "tight assholes" late; ie, they choked. all they needed to win was a friggin field goal in one half of football. I think they should have played their older QB, Hubinek (sp) and ran the football after their guy got hurt. but, once these comebacks get started they are hard to stop; it takes an offense to make a damn drive and scoring. takes time off the clock too.
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5539 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:32 pm to
Both I think
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8186 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:56 pm to
Texas high school football breeds weakness
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