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re: Academics starting to call for the end of college football
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:49 am to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:49 am to Vecchio Cane
quote:why is it so hard for some of you to understand the difference between public and private money? Tax dollars pays for police officers and teachers because they work for the public. Private citizens and corporations fund college athletics through television money and ticket sales. There is far more money collected from sports in the private sector. The only real reason they aren't paying them more money now is because of Title iX
This is sure to be unpopular but I'll support banning football before I support paying players.
We have completely lost all vision and values if we pay kids to play college football with the budget shortfalls that most SEC states face yearly. Priorities, man. I can't imagine being a teacher or a cop and seeing people get enthusiastic about paying kids to play a game while schools and municipalities beg for funding
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:56 am to anc
at some point the hippy narrative is gonna takeover and since cannabis supposedly helps protect the brain we are gonna end up watching a bunch of stoners play frisbee on espn.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:00 pm to anc
College football will slowly die. Schools probably won't cut it cold turkey, but I could see them limiting coaching salaries, and indirectly reducing the product. I do agree it should be a private enterprise. These guys should be paid for the damage to their body. Kids should have to option to be paid for their work at 18 like every other profession. The NFL will be forced to actually have a minor league.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:04 pm to anc
Academics can call all they want to. We will always play college football in Alabama.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:05 pm to anc
Im calling for the end of Academics.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:08 pm to RainKing96
College football caught root in areas without pro sports. As the population shifts south, you will see a transition. It is just a better product.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:09 pm to anc
Take away the pads and there will be less brutality.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:11 pm to FightingTigers138
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LSU gave back 11 million to the academic side in 2015. Football helps academics. Except Auburn. They are the only school (In the SEC) accepting state money still
Which SEC programs give back to academics? $11M is solid btw.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:55 pm to OldSchoolHorn
That said, six SEC schools, including LSU, transferred a significant amount of athletic revenue — much of it produced via football — back to the academic side in 2015-16, according to documents. Florida sent its academic side the most ($22 million), followed by LSU ($11 million), South Carolina ($5.1 million), Kentucky ($4.4 million), Georgia ($4 million) and Mississippi State ($2.9 million).
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:57 pm to OldSchoolHorn
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:09 pm to FightingTigers138
Where did you find that Auburn accepts state money for athletics? Genuinely curious, and I haven't been able to find anything.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:14 pm to HSV2013
Athletic departments at five SEC schools receive some kind of school support, from Ole Miss’ $2.9 million, the high, to Auburn’s $546,000.
I was wrong, sorry. Auburn is one of five. They accept the least of the five. Ole Miss accepts the most help while moo state gives money to their academics. It's all in the link i previously posted.
I was wrong, sorry. Auburn is one of five. They accept the least of the five. Ole Miss accepts the most help while moo state gives money to their academics. It's all in the link i previously posted.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:15 pm to yatesdog38
quote:it DOES help protect the brain. And the hypocrasy of locking people up for cannabis to "protect the kids" whilest allowing them to bust their brains all to hell on the gridiron every week is pretty ridiculous.
at some point the hippy narrative is gonna takeover and since cannabis supposedly helps protect the brain we are gonna end up watching a bunch of stoners play frisbee on espn.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:19 pm to MontyFranklyn
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why is it so hard for some of you to understand the difference between public and private money? Tax dollars pays for police officers and teachers because they work for the public. Private citizens and corporations fund college athletics through television money and ticket sales. There is far more money collected from sports in the private sector. The only real reason they aren't paying them more money now is because of Title iX
Well that is not 100% true. Most money given to colleges for athletics come in the form of ticket priority just for the right to buy tickets. That is then tax deductible at the rate of 80%. My 4 scholarship tickets cost $12,000, but I get a $9,600 tax deduction. So the government is still partially funding the moneys that go for sports.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:29 pm to allin2010
quote:wow, what a SHAM that is. It is treated like a charitable donation. I wonder how much money charities miss out on every year b/c of crap like that.
Well that is not 100% true. Most money given to colleges for athletics come in the form of ticket priority just for the right to buy tickets. That is then tax deductible at the rate of 80%. My 4 scholarship tickets cost $12,000, but I get a $9,600 tax deduction. So the government is still partially funding the moneys that go for sports.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:34 pm to Slackaveli
It is a donation to athletics. that is why you are considered a booster if you are a season ticket holder. Only 20% of it at LSU.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:37 pm to allin2010
Football is one of the biggest drivers of alumni and booster contributions to a school. It will be interesting like you said how this all goes.
I suspect the feds to get involved at some point, but there is a lot of money in football that will influence decisions no matter where it comes from.
I suspect the feds to get involved at some point, but there is a lot of money in football that will influence decisions no matter where it comes from.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:37 pm to Slackaveli
Charities wouldnt be the ones missing out. It would be the government. There is no cap on the amount of charities allowed.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:50 pm to allin2010
quote:They aren't directly funding it, that is my point. Just because you take advantage of tax loop holes doesn't mean that the government is funding college athletics. That tax loophole only inflates the price Auburn is putting on the tickets in the first place. If that loophole didn't exist, Auburn would price those tickets much cheaper because they wouldn't be able to unload them at $12k without the tax break loophole.
Well that is not 100% true. Most money given to colleges for athletics come in the form of ticket priority just for the right to buy tickets. That is then tax deductible at the rate of 80%. My 4 scholarship tickets cost $12,000, but I get a $9,600 tax deduction. So the government is still partially funding the moneys that go for sports.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:40 pm to j1897
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More and more... like 12
Simply not true
Which is the lowest estimate right now. Remember, a decade ago CTE wasn't considered a major problem for football players. Soccer is just beginning to realize they have a growing problem.
Sure that sport can back off and keep players out of the lineup to reduce the likeliness of this developing but it is a real problem that is only going to grow.
Simply true.
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