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re: What's the acceptable floor for your team in 2017? Your reaction to possible records?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 1:56 pm to MenloDawg
Posted on 7/20/17 at 1:56 pm to MenloDawg
To still have a football team by late October/November/whenever the COI ruling is finalized would be pretty acceptable. With nothing at stake because of the bowl ban and with a coach who might be gone regardless of success, it's kinda hard to set a floor other than wanting to see the melts after wins
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:07 pm to MenloDawg
I normally roll my eyes when fans demand that 9–3 with a chance to win 10 is the bare minimum of what is acceptable, and even then it's a disappointment and shouldn't have happened. But in Georgia's case, if you wanted a steady 9–3, your administration could have just kept Richt.
Georgia is in a scary position. Reminds me of when Nebraska fired Solich because he wasn't doing a good enough job, even though he was winning out the arse. It shouldn't take very long with Georgia's recruiting and resources to find out if Smart is worth it or not. Should be a quick trigger to let him go if he doesn't win the East by next year.
Georgia is in a scary position. Reminds me of when Nebraska fired Solich because he wasn't doing a good enough job, even though he was winning out the arse. It shouldn't take very long with Georgia's recruiting and resources to find out if Smart is worth it or not. Should be a quick trigger to let him go if he doesn't win the East by next year.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:13 pm to MenloDawg
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For UGA, the floor should be 9-3 this year. 10 returning starters from a solid D, a QB in his 2nd full year as a starter, extremely talented at RB and in the 2nd year of the same coaching staff. The only thing that gives me any pause at putting the acceptable floor at 10-2 is the schedule. @ ND, @ UT, @ AU, @ GT, UF in Jax and @ Vandy is not an easy schedule away from home. Three big six teams, two other teams that beat us last year and ND.
9-3 - Pissed to the point that it would almost be unacceptable. This likely means a loss at home as a favorite to a team with inferior talent or 3 road/neutral site losses out of 6. Not good.
10-2 and win the East - I am satisfied with that. Likely means a loss to either AU/ND/GT and some other team that does not prevent us from winning the East.
10-2 and 2nd in the East - Disappointed. Not quite livid, but close. Likely means there was a crap the pants loss against somebody in the East.
11-1 or better - Clearly this would be fine.
8-4 or worse - I'm grabbing pitchforks.
The interesting thing is comparing that outlook to the Vegas o/u right now - has UGA at 8.5. -125o/-105u.
Ok can the Dawg fanbase tell me what I'm missing here? You guys won 8 games last season. UK and Mizzou took you to the wire and you were dangerously close to losing to Nicholls State as well. Did you forget that? You were that close to a straight up losing season and now you'd be disappointed with 10 wins? Get real.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:16 pm to MenloDawg
Anything less than 9-3 requires a really good explanation.
Assuming Stidham is somewhere in the neighborhood of reasonable expectations, 9-3 should be the floor.
At 8-4 I'm probably not irate, I'm just sick of the mediocrity and ready to see a change at the top. At that point there isn't much to get excited about. It's not like Gus has some dream staff he's holding together.
9-3 is unclear, it really depends on who we lose to and how. If we lose solidly to UGA, UA and LSU, especially if Stidham is the real deal, then things will be rough. Counter to that is if we're playing our best ball at the end of the season.
It's the same shite every year. While I'd love to make the CFP, I really just want Auburn to get on track to somewhere and perform at least to the level of our talent. I think that's probably at a 10-2 regular season level or so.
Summarized - I would probably hold off gunning for Gus if he finds his way to 10 wins overall. That's where AU needs to be, IMO.
Assuming Stidham is somewhere in the neighborhood of reasonable expectations, 9-3 should be the floor.
At 8-4 I'm probably not irate, I'm just sick of the mediocrity and ready to see a change at the top. At that point there isn't much to get excited about. It's not like Gus has some dream staff he's holding together.
9-3 is unclear, it really depends on who we lose to and how. If we lose solidly to UGA, UA and LSU, especially if Stidham is the real deal, then things will be rough. Counter to that is if we're playing our best ball at the end of the season.
It's the same shite every year. While I'd love to make the CFP, I really just want Auburn to get on track to somewhere and perform at least to the level of our talent. I think that's probably at a 10-2 regular season level or so.
Summarized - I would probably hold off gunning for Gus if he finds his way to 10 wins overall. That's where AU needs to be, IMO.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I like how even in unrealistic fantasy predictions people still pick themselves losing to Alabama
That loss is obviously to 15-0 Auburn.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:18 pm to BammerDelendaEst
State is going to pick off LSU or Georgia. I dont think it will be LSU.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:21 pm to MenloDawg
Anything Saban does will be acceptable but our floor will be winning 11 games as usual. Unless we get poor quarterback play there is no way we don't win the conference regardless of how good the rest of the usual tough teams are.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:24 pm to MenloDawg
UGA replaces an Ole Miss team that destroyed them 45-14 last season with a state college team that annihilated the team that destroyed them by a score of 55-20....yet they truly believe this year will be better than last. delusion is the norm in Athens.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:27 pm to Pettifogger
quote:This.
While I'd love to make the CFP, I really just want Auburn to get on track to somewhere and perform at least to the level of our talent. I think that's probably at a 10-2 regular season level or so.
quote:That's why we're Auburn.
It's the same shite every year.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:34 pm to GameCocky88
Wouldn't necessarily be disappointed in 10 wins. Would be more disappointed that the 10 win season was not good enough to win the East.
The above would explain this:
And history says:
Greene went from 8 wins to 13 from year 1 to year 2
Stafford went from 9 wins to 11 from year 1 to year 2
Murray went from 6 wins to 10 from year 1 to year 2
Based on all the above, it's not unrealistic to expect a 10 win season.
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10 returning starters from a solid D, a QB in his 2nd full year as a starter, extremely talented at RB and in the 2nd year of the same coaching staff.
The above would explain this:
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Ok can the Dawg fanbase tell me what I'm missing here?
And history says:
Greene went from 8 wins to 13 from year 1 to year 2
Stafford went from 9 wins to 11 from year 1 to year 2
Murray went from 6 wins to 10 from year 1 to year 2
Based on all the above, it's not unrealistic to expect a 10 win season.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:35 pm to MenloDawg
For Florida, the schedule is favorable. All the tough games at home. They only play 4 games outside of the state of Florida.
FSU is a legit title contender, so although I'll be livid if UF loses to them again, it's understandable looking at it as of today.
But outside of that game, UF should be in it for every game. No excuses. I don't see anyone on this schedule, especially at home, that should be blowing UF out.
So I have to be honest, anything less than 10-2 and I will be disappointed. My guess is that they land at 9-3, I've predicted that most of the off season, and the only reason that won't disappoint me is if UF still finds a way to win the SEC east.
So basically:
10-2 or better and winning the east = very happy
10-2 and not winning the east = sad about losing the east, but he good season
9-3 and winning the east = a bit sad about 3 losses, but hey winning the east is always nice
9-3 and losing the east is disappointment
8-4 and I'm thinking Mac isn't the guy maybe give him one more year
7-5 or worse and it's get the pitch forks out
FSU is a legit title contender, so although I'll be livid if UF loses to them again, it's understandable looking at it as of today.
But outside of that game, UF should be in it for every game. No excuses. I don't see anyone on this schedule, especially at home, that should be blowing UF out.
So I have to be honest, anything less than 10-2 and I will be disappointed. My guess is that they land at 9-3, I've predicted that most of the off season, and the only reason that won't disappoint me is if UF still finds a way to win the SEC east.
So basically:
10-2 or better and winning the east = very happy
10-2 and not winning the east = sad about losing the east, but he good season
9-3 and winning the east = a bit sad about 3 losses, but hey winning the east is always nice
9-3 and losing the east is disappointment
8-4 and I'm thinking Mac isn't the guy maybe give him one more year
7-5 or worse and it's get the pitch forks out
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:35 pm to MenloDawg
I can live with that. I'm not saying you can't win 10 or even that it is unrealistic. Being disappointed with 10 after last year seemed like a stretch.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:42 pm to Pettifogger
Based on pre-season info/hype, there are 8 games that Auburn SHOULDwin.
There are three games that I would call toss-ups right now: Clemson, LSU, and UGA.
Bama is the only one that I think is a long-shot now.
So, win all the games we should, split the toss-ups, and (maybe) surprise Bama.
9 - 11 wins is what I expect.
There are three games that I would call toss-ups right now: Clemson, LSU, and UGA.
Bama is the only one that I think is a long-shot now.
So, win all the games we should, split the toss-ups, and (maybe) surprise Bama.
9 - 11 wins is what I expect.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 3:16 pm to GameCocky88
We were also dangerously close to winning 10 games during the regular season. Most teams make huge strides from year one to year two. We return almost every starter on a damn good D.
We women 8 games last year so 10 isn't out of the question. Do you not expect USCe to improve from last year? It's no different.
We women 8 games last year so 10 isn't out of the question. Do you not expect USCe to improve from last year? It's no different.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 3:17 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Everyone in the SEC east is expecting to be better next year other than UT... and they think they'll be about the same.
A bunch of people are going to be disappointed. Happens every year.
I would add that Georgia was also dangerously close to missing a bowl game. It goes both ways.
A bunch of people are going to be disappointed. Happens every year.
I would add that Georgia was also dangerously close to missing a bowl game. It goes both ways.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 3:19 pm to slayerxing
Yep. I don't have a problem with fans being that way.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 3:20 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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We were also dangerously close to winning 10 games during the regular season
Auburn, Kentucky, Missouri,and Nichols St could've been losses. I'm interested to Georgias offensive line this year. Also if Eason has improved
Posted on 7/20/17 at 3:25 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I don't have a problem with fans expecting improvement. My commentary was aimed more at the notion that there should be disappointment in the 10 win season, not that it shouldn't be expected or even attainable.
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