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re: 2018 Recruiting Thread: Sprint to NSD.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 6:39 pm to reel_gator8
Posted on 12/27/17 at 6:39 pm to reel_gator8
Idk reel 2018 schedule is cupcake filled.
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 6:40 pm to TJGator1215
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My #1 QB is Franks.
Reel: I know he has a slow delivery, but I wouldn't call it an ''average'' arm. Brian Johnson also has connections to Trask.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXZlGtqzKTY
Franks
You can see the problems with Franks in high school. Trask is clearly more poised in the pocket, understands it to a higher degree. Franks on the first highlight throws it into double coverage after scrambling a little. You can also see that as soon as pressure in his face, he stops looking downfield. You can also see in Franks' video when he fails to see a LB. That's on his highlights video.
Go to Trask -- 0 interceptions, his overall accuracy was 73%. In his video you can see that they're not easy throws he's making, either. His entire collegiate career he's had 17 touchdowns and no interceptions out of 118 attempts.
Back to Franks -- 17 interceptions, 57%. Considerably more touchdowns but he actually got to play. Trask did not play at a school that fit his style, and that is the only reason he sat on the bench the entire time.
His numbers are solid, he's got a good arm and he knows how to keep his composure in the pocket. If it's not Trask, it'll be Jones.
I can say emphatically, a new HC is not looking to ride an incredible failure of a quarterback like Franks. We'll run 80% of the time if that's the case.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 6:41 pm to TJGator1215
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Idk reel 2018 schedule is cupcake filled.
We won't lose 5 games even if it's Jones, unless we're completely shitting the bed.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:22 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The starting QB for marvel threw for 8700+ yards and 120+ TDs in 3 years. If Trask was good he would've been fine
Posted on 12/27/17 at 8:53 pm to TJGator1215
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The starting QB for marvel threw for 8700+ yards and 120+ TDs in 3 years. If Trask was good he would've been fine
That would be D'Eriq King, a lot of people who were talkin' shite about him.
He also almost had 2,709 yards on the ground and 37 touchdowns while averaging 7 yards a carry.
It was a spread-option type of look with a DT QB who could also throw pretty decently.
They're not going to put in Trask when they have a player with 10,000 all purpose yards and 150+ touchdowns to a pro-style quarterback. That being said, he has the build and capacity to run the power-spread but not a pure spread where the QB needs to be like a scat-back.
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 9:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Where tf are you seeing this running at? He runs the 40 in 4.8 at best. That's slow. That's like asking Peyton manning to run the spread option. The first evolution of the spread offense was a passing offense. Therefore a "pure" spread would fit Trask better.
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:11 pm to TJGator1215
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Where tf are you seeing this running at? He runs the 40 in 4.8 at best. That's slow. That's like asking Peyton manning to run the spread option. The first evolution of the spread offense was a passing offense. Therefore a "pure" spread would fit Trask better.
Tim Tebow runs a 4.71.
He ran for almost 3,000 yards in college. It's not about being lightning fast, TJ. I'm not getting into these autistic terms war.
He can run the power-spread, you don't need to be that fast. Okay? He's big enough to run it, and he doesn't lower his goddamn eyes and scramble like a moron when people are in his face.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:55 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You are comparing Tebow to Trask. Tebow had SEC football speed as a QB.
So does Emory and Franks. Trask from what I have seen does not. He is a pocket passing QB. You are making Noah Brindise into a DT QB. Size is not everything.
So does Emory and Franks. Trask from what I have seen does not. He is a pocket passing QB. You are making Noah Brindise into a DT QB. Size is not everything.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 11:08 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
I don't want you guys breaking your backs making arguments that I never made. I simply said Tebow is a tenth of a second faster than Trask and he ran for 3,000 yards. I'm sure Trask can improve with a Summer of Strength and Conditioning -- even his running speed.
Franks is a pocket passing QB? His 40 is 4.71, too.
The difference is that Trask has shown, even if it's only in high school, that he can go through his reads and manipulate the pocket.
Franks literally has the exact same problems that he's had since high school. He has no mind for the game at QB. I have no idea why people were all over Driskel for being a shitty quarterback but Franks somehow gets a pass when he doesn't show a single quality as a QB that could be considered 'elite'.
His arm strength is the only 'elite' quality he has, but mentally? It's all bad. Even with bad coaches, if he legitimately doesn't know how to keep his eyes up and when to throw it away it's a little late.
Watch the film, it's all there.
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He is a pocket passing QB.
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Franks
Franks is a pocket passing QB? His 40 is 4.71, too.
The difference is that Trask has shown, even if it's only in high school, that he can go through his reads and manipulate the pocket.
Franks literally has the exact same problems that he's had since high school. He has no mind for the game at QB. I have no idea why people were all over Driskel for being a shitty quarterback but Franks somehow gets a pass when he doesn't show a single quality as a QB that could be considered 'elite'.
His arm strength is the only 'elite' quality he has, but mentally? It's all bad. Even with bad coaches, if he legitimately doesn't know how to keep his eyes up and when to throw it away it's a little late.
Watch the film, it's all there.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:52 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Franks is bad. Really bad. Interesting to see if better qb coaching improves his game at all.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:40 am to slayerxing
Hearing the way Mullen spoke of Emory at his press conference, with the new staff coming into their first season at UF so everybody is on equal footing, and with it in mind that Emory has January through August to prepare, I would say the job is there for him to take if he performs and if he is able to take on the leadership role that’s required at QB.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:48 pm to slayerxing
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Franks is bad. Really bad. Interesting to see if better qb coaching improves his game at all.
The problem is that he's not even at ''0'' so to speak, he's at like -300. You might as well take one of your TE's and try to convert him to QB because mentally they have the same level of football IQ.
Franks is way behind the eight ball regarding time, and really I don't know why you'd try to teach someone how to not do fundamentally bad things (staring at the receiver, not knowing when to throw it away, eyes on the line rather than on his receivers, not having any pocket awareness/presence and fumbling too easily) when you could easily just take someone who was on the bench (Trask, shite, maybe even Allen) with a somewhat fresh start -- or Jones who hasn't been corrupted by the Nusselwainchampdazzio curse.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:26 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I think Jones is the starter. No reason to not be. Freshman start a lot more at Qb now. Build for the future.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:35 pm to Gatorbait2008
Transition year would rather go young and win 8 games than old and win 8. Let’s see what year 2 will bring with an experienced Jones.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:44 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I think Jones is the starter. No reason to not be. Freshman start a lot more at Qb now. Build for the future.
Personally I think it's Jones, unless his football IQ just isn't there. I'd see him playing immediately though, because at this point there's just no real quarterback to run the system Mullen wants to implement.
I know for a fact it won't be Franks.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:17 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
emory BALLER arse jones will guide the Gators to AT LEAST a 9-3 season.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:08 pm to SailorGator
As I have said....college football has surprises every year and no one can predict what 2018 brings...but imho we would probably be a 7-5 or 8-4 team with a true frosh QB that is going to start day one.
Fromm just hands the ball off for the most part...although does have a great arm and seems to have great football sense about him. Cant say true frosh start 12 games in 95% of the case. Bama's QB had a deep and talented team around him. We don't have quite that luxury...yet.
Fromm just hands the ball off for the most part...although does have a great arm and seems to have great football sense about him. Cant say true frosh start 12 games in 95% of the case. Bama's QB had a deep and talented team around him. We don't have quite that luxury...yet.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:34 pm to reel_gator8
Fromm without the run game is a decent, not great QB. He has a strong defense and run game to support him.
Which we don't..well we have a good ground attack with our backfield but the defense could be...bad next year
Which we don't..well we have a good ground attack with our backfield but the defense could be...bad next year
Posted on 12/29/17 at 12:18 am to Gatorbait2008
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Fromm without the run game is a decent, not great QB. He has a strong defense and run game to support him.
Anyone can run that offense, and a lot of people think it's the standard for freshmen quarterbacks but I mean -- when the defense needs 8 players in the box every down because their RBs are literally getting 6 yards (minimum) a pop, you're always throwing into one on one situations and rarely do you need to actually read the defense. He also can't throw right (I'm calling him Blue Steel from now on).
We really have no idea what his true skills are, and we'll have to wait until we have more data from when they stop the run.
ND and Auburn (1) were the only ones who were capable of doing it, and in those games he was terrible. (55 and 46%.)
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but the defense could be...bad next year
Don't knock them. They had no backups, all were underclassmen, we had a CB playing safety and their DC was Shannon. They'll bounce back and surprise the frick out of us next year.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 1:52 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Folks were predicting we would have bad defense in 2017 and that wasn't true...but we had Harris go down before the ball was ever snapped, our leading tackler in 2016 and that hurt us and then Washington was hurt later, giving our DB corp a very youthful look along with a thin underclassmen LBing group. That will pay off in 2018 as CJ Henderson and Marco Wilson are going to be part of the DBU we always have enjoyed. Reese, Joseph, Moon are going to be more experienced and Moon has the physical size to develop into a monster.
The DL will again be stout. If we can get better special team coverage and returns our team will be improved. I count the A&M game as one the ST lost for us. Some of the worse return/coverage on special teams that I can remember in ages. The blocking on return game was awful and our returners were just as bad...letting punts fly over their heads and ending up inside our 15 yd line.
As bad as Franks was....he was handcuffed 9 out of 10 times starting off in bad field position...that makes a lot of QBs look worse. If we correct the return game alone we should be a more complete team.
The DL will again be stout. If we can get better special team coverage and returns our team will be improved. I count the A&M game as one the ST lost for us. Some of the worse return/coverage on special teams that I can remember in ages. The blocking on return game was awful and our returners were just as bad...letting punts fly over their heads and ending up inside our 15 yd line.
As bad as Franks was....he was handcuffed 9 out of 10 times starting off in bad field position...that makes a lot of QBs look worse. If we correct the return game alone we should be a more complete team.
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