Gator game ...

Agree with your points.

I have no doubt that Muschamp will out coach McElwain. The talent gap is where I worry

I've been to a lot of games down there over the years. Ten of our games I think ... more all-together though because I lived in Mt Dora for awhile and dated a big Gator booster who had me going to games with her through most of 95-96.

So I know that place pretty well.

It's like The Cock Pit. If you let them make big plays and get momentum going the crowd can be a factor. If you keep it close and weather the storm they'll quiet down a bit.

Early games there are like everywhere else, the crowd is not drunk so it's not nearly as rowdy.

BTW ... we're in garnet helmets, white jerseys and white pants today.

We won't win vs. any good teams as long as we have retards like Roper and Elliott coaching our offense. Both of these clowns will be lucky to get jobs as a position coach for any FBS school by the time Muschamp fires them in 3-4 years.

The difference of talent in both lines was astounding, on the verge of difficult to watch. I can see why we have in the ballpark of 5 OL in this years class.

Agreed.

I pretty much said the same thing in the game thread.


I'm also disappointed in hurst's blocking. On a side note I feel like deebo or Cosby lays out for that last pass in the end zone whereas hurst just stretched for it. Don't think it matters in the overall outcome of the game but was curious to see what looked like a lack of effort to me.

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I disagree on Roper, he was handcuffed on play calls today. That OLine is worse than 5 wet paperbags. Elliot has got to go, zone blocking is a thing of the past, bodies on bodies and push them out the way is the way to go.

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This: I claim ignorance on zone blocking techniques - I see other teams that profess to utilize zone blocking that block much better than we do, and they aren't necessarily stocked on elite OL talent either.

But I've watched our OL over this season and in past seasons: they engage DL for something like 1-2 seconds and then stop. The plays are still progressing, and in many cases the ball is still in our backfield. So those OL wind up standing and watching the DL that they were just engaging making backfield tackles and QB sacks.

And it wasn't because our OL were manhandled....it wasn't because they stumbled or was juked by a shifty DE. They just stop with the play still active. All the times I see other OLs blocking and engaging not only to the whistle, but PAST the whistle that it aggravates the DL. But our OL stops. Why??

And on other plays - mostly run plays - I see a OL run through the LOS ahead of the RB who apparently is supposed to run behind him. The OL runs through and keeps running: he lets this opposing guy go past him, lets that opposing guy go past. Like he thinks HE has the ball, and HE'S the one rushing up field for the big gain. The plays end up with him turning around and watching one of the opposing players that he ran past making the tackle on our RB. He never engages anyone. Why?

From the little I can gather, the zone read blocking schemes call for OL to block zones or areas, instead of saying, "I got this guy, you take that guy".

And I can understand that, but so often I've seen during the years under Elliot, where our OL will guard an area and let an opponent (or two) go past him, when if he has his eyes open, he should know that the only opponent in his area to engage was the guy he just let go past him. So he ends up like in the other examples: having no one to engage, then turning around to watch the defender he just let go past him make the tackle for loss or sack.

When the questions are asked afterwards - "why didn't he block the guy?" - the answers are always, "he says he didn't see the guy". But there was no one else TO see. Does he block with his eyes closed? If it's blocking a zone or area, then aren't you supposed to pick up the first opponent who invades your zone? I mean, I don't expect our OL to pick up everyone, but at least pick up SOMEONE, and live with the decision.

Coming into the UF game today, USC was dead last in the SEC - and easily so - in tackles for loss allowed and in QB sacks allowed. 115th nationally in both categories, out of 128 FBS teams.


Whatever we're trying to do with the OL, it just ain't working.....