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re: What about Bama's O v LSU's D?

Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:52 pm to
And most of Alabama's yards in that game were on the ground. Some teams use the passing game to open up the running game, and some teams run it just enough to keep the defense honest.
Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:52 pm to
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I don't see a lot of LSU fans saying passing game is an advantage. Do you?


No, but I just realize the magnitude of its ineptitude. If you can't threaten Alabama down the field, you won't be able to move the ball. That's just the truth of the matter.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Tell that to Sumlin and Swinney




2 whole games? Nice.

I could just ask Bert or Butch how they held him to a single reception each, right?
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:54 pm to
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No, but I just realize the magnitude of its ineptitude. If you can't threaten Alabama down the field, you won't be able to move the ball. That's just the truth of the matter.


Same thing can be said of LSU.
Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:55 pm to
Yeah, ask Butch and Bert how much covering him helped them out.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:55 pm to
Howard runs a lot of flats routes and corner routes, I guess a safety could crash on that but I doubt that's the best way to attack that. Engram's bread and butter is intermediate middle of the field. Beckwith is a fine player. He can't play all night with OJ Howard in man coverage without giving up some big plays. Kid outran your entire secondary as a freshman
Posted by Nissanmaxima
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:55 pm to
I agree I don't think this will be a high scoring game. Both defenses are too good and will be a typical 21-20, 20-17 type of game.

If anything Alabama should be a little worried only due to the fact they have already given up 43 and 30 where as LSU has only given up 21. This only tells me that Alabama's defense is a little more prone to giving up a few more points in spurts.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:56 pm to
Actually, LSU is 7th in total yards per play and FIRST in yards per carry. That includes the entirety of the season. We ran the ball for 6.9 yards per carry against Auburn, who is giving up 3.72 YPC.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:56 pm to
I never saw where he said that would break LSU's defense. He said we'd have open receivers. And I don't even think he said we would hit those receivers. I don't think that's much of a stretch. You're just exaggerating and moving the goalposts.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:01 pm to
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I never saw where he said that would break LSU's defense. He said we'd have open receivers. And I don't even think he said we would hit those receivers. I don't think that's much of a stretch. You're just exaggerating and moving the goalposts.


So pointing out how all these mismatches aren't actually mismatches is moving the goalposts?

We keep hearing how pissed LSU fans get when people say Bama is better, but the fact is Bama fans get salty as frick and lose their minds if anyone even suggests they don't have a plus match-up across the board.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:02 pm to
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And most of Alabama's yards in that game were on the ground. Some teams use the passing game to open up the running game, and some teams run it just enough to keep the defense honest.




We are ranked 9th in rushing offense with 264.8 ypg, and 62nd in passing offense with 233.3 ypg

OM is ranked 94th in rushing offence with 148.9 ypg, and 17th in passing offense with 305.4 ypg.

We are ranked 15th in total offense, while OM is ranked 37th.

I'd argue that we have the more dynamic offense.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:04 pm to

I can honestly say idk what what will happen. I think its pretty funny that most Bama fans are predicting a blowout though.


I love when Swamptards just make up bullshite in relation to Bama just to make a point or establish some sense of self-perceived moral superiority. I haven't seen near the amount of woofing by Bama fans about a blowout as LSU fans predicting one.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:05 pm to
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This only tells me that Alabama's defense is a little more prone to giving up a few more points in spurts.


Alabama was leading Ole Miss 48-30 with 3 minutes to play in that game (and 23 of those were offensive points). Ole Miss then got hot, made a bunch of long throws (with Humphrey, Jackson, Foster and Fitzpatrick all out) and scored 13 quick points.

Alabama was leading Arkansas 42-17 with 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. A combo of 1st and 2nd team defenders got complacent and started getting beat. Arkansas kept their 1st team in the whole game (including while down 49-24 with 4 minutes left) and scored a few late TDs.

This isn't to say those stats don't count, but there is a little of bit of context there. Alabama has a tendency to take leads and then give up yards and points. We've done more than a few times in the last few years.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 2:09 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:06 pm to
I think it should be a good matchup.

I think LSU's only minor weakness may be at DT. (Minor mind you).

LSU LB's are as good as they get and their DB's are elite.

Then you have Arden Key who is a bad arse.

It will be the toughest Defense Bama will have faced so far when played.

Question mark of course will be LSU offense. I think they have progressed like Auburn, but I am interested to see what happens in the game.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 2:07 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:07 pm to
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I think LSU's only minor weakness may be at DT. (Minor mind you).


It's more than Minor. Valentine is in the doghouse and Gilmore is a 300 pound waste of space. The LaCouture injury is rearing it's ugly head.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Actually, LSU is 7th in total yards per play and FIRST in yards per carry. That includes the entirety of the season. We ran the ball for 6.9 yards per carry against Auburn, who is giving up 3.72 YPC.


And LSU was averaging 6.66 yards per rush through the first 7 games last year (currently 6.74) before the 1.97 yards per rush performance against Alabama. So, kind of take it with a grain of salt.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:14 pm to
Not so fast, my friend.

Ole Miss has had three games against teams in the Top 20 in total defense (Bama, LSU, UGA). Alabama hasn't played one yet. And those three rushing defenses are ranked No. 1, 12 and 17.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:16 pm to
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Hurts' passing ability is garbage and LSU's D will expose him


As usual it will have nothing to do with Bama's QB ability but how the OC or Kiffin schemes the offense.

If the play confuses our defense, the QB will make the play.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:16 pm to
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Ole Miss has had three games against teams in the Top 20 in total defense (Bama, LSU, UGA). Alabama hasn't played one yet. And those three rushing defenses are ranked No. 1, 12 and 17.



Still, not a convincing enough point to your argument of their offense being more dynamic.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 2:17 pm
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