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re: Spin off thread - Which team is the luckiest against your team?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:48 pm to tgerb8
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:48 pm to tgerb8
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You give up a big play to lose the game but a penalty flag takes it back - you got lucky.
This is to LOSE the game (i.e. final play). Not during the game.
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sooo.. pretty much exactly what allowed Bama to only need a field goal? got it.
Bama needed a FG to tie b/c Miles was coaching. Everyone in the stadium - including Saban and staff - as well as everyone watching at home knows that the LSU play-calling was going to be run, run, run, kick regardless of if you got the ball at the 8 or the 23.
Also, Bama had ball 1st and goal in OT and had a penalty that took them back to the 15. They didn't let that penalty keep them from winning. LSU having the ball late inside the Bama 25 should have resulted in victory, but your O was predictable, your kicker went OOB, and your D got tight and exploited. The champs stayed focused while your coach and your team got tight.
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Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:48 pm to bigDgator
Alabama
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:48 pm to AlabamaAlum07
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Didn't y'all lose to Florida that year by an even worse score?
Quote the post where I say we were on par or better than Florida in 2012.
I called him out on 2012 because he left it out of his game where "South Carolina was obviously the better team".
We were a better team than Georgia. Just not Better than Florida and LSU
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:48 pm to BHMKyle
quote:This just proves that Auburn does not perform well against Arkansas. You stated that they rank 3rd in Big 6 win percentage but last against Arkansas. To make a fair comparison, wouldn't one compare the win percentage against non big 6 rather than just Arkansas to prove your point??
Facts are facts. Sorry you read into everything so much and turn it into a personal attack. Does it not seem strange to you that Auburn has only a marginally better record since '92 against Arkansas than they do against the other "Big 6" teams? If you look at every single SEC team since '92, they all have a better record against Arkansas than they do combined against the "Big 6". Every single team. For example... Georgia has an 80% winning percentage against Arkansas. We have a 43.9% winning percentage against the "Big 6". If you take the difference we are +36.1% against Arkansas compared to the "Big 6." You can do this exercise for every single SEC program, and they all have a better record against Arkansas than they do against the "Big 6" collectively. Put them in order, and this is how they rank: +76.9% Texas A&M +45.3% Kentucky +36.1% Georgia +35.3% Florida +27.7% Tennessee +15.4% S. Carolina +15.1% Alabama +13.9% Ole Miss +11.0% LSU +9.9% Mississippi State +7.8% Vanderbilt +4.7% Auburn Auburn is dead last in this statistic. The other 12 teams combine to perform +21.1% better against Arkansas than they do against the "Big 6". Auburn is at just 4.7%. This is my point. Auburn over-performs against the bigger name teams while they under-perform against the lesser teams in the conference. It's just who Auburn seems to be. Auburn ranks 3rd in the SEC in "Big 6" winning percentage since 1992. They trail only Florida and Alabama in this statistic. Auburn has a better overall winning percentage against the "Big 6" than LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, and every other team in the league. Yet Auburn is 8th in the league in winning percentage against Arkansas since 1992. Even Kentucky has a better winning percentage against the Razorbacks than Auburn does. Is this not at all out of line to you?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:50 pm to Dallashog
Why would you quote that entire post 
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:55 pm to CNB
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We were a better team than Georgia. Just not Better than Florida and LSU
But Uga was better than uf, so now what?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:56 pm to lsusteve1
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LSU was lucky to even be in the 2012 and 2014. Bama had to play like shite for that to happen.
I swear they must teach this response to all 12 year old 1st Graders in Bama schools.
It's in the Alabama state constitution.....The only team that can beat Bama is Bama.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:59 pm to bigDgator
Alabama has been pretty lucky to beat Alabama lately.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:59 pm to CNB
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We were a better team than Georgia. Just not Better than Florida and LSU
Idk man. It happens every year for probably forever where one team just flat out plays better that day but might not necessarily be the better team, if that makes sense. And I mean, I'm thrilled with our '12 season so it's not like it's sour grapes or anything, there is no justifiable way to get around the fact that we didn't even belong on teh same field with SC that day.
But I mean I think that UGA was better in 2012 than SC was in 2012, and I don't think it's a bad thing to say. In 2001 we beat UT in knoxville but I certainly wouldn't say UGA 01 was better than 01 UT.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:03 pm to Gary Busey
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Alabama has been pretty lucky to beat Alabama lately.
I guess you don't understand the running joke?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:21 pm to CNB
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We were a better team than Georgia. Just not Better than Florida and LSU
And Georgia was better than Florida so...
What happened in Columbia that night was just Richt pulling his annual Richt.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:21 pm to bigDgator
If Auburn is lucky against everyone, and it happens so often, is it really luck?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:26 pm to LSU82BILL
At least Kyle confirmed that Ole Miss is statistically horrible in one-possession games.
Obviously Auburn is the luckiest team in the conference, but Ole Miss' persistent inability to beat Arkansas in overtime stands out to me too. Still, the first thing I said after Auburn broke Treadwell's leg to cause a game-winning fumble in '14 was, "Motherfricking Auburn luck." Watching JFF do stupid things against us with less than 3:00 to go to win two years in a row was pretty wrenching too. At least karma kicked his arse...
Obviously Auburn is the luckiest team in the conference, but Ole Miss' persistent inability to beat Arkansas in overtime stands out to me too. Still, the first thing I said after Auburn broke Treadwell's leg to cause a game-winning fumble in '14 was, "Motherfricking Auburn luck." Watching JFF do stupid things against us with less than 3:00 to go to win two years in a row was pretty wrenching too. At least karma kicked his arse...
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:28 pm to AlabamaAlum07
Well that's convenient. Just blow it off.
A 28 point victory stands by itself. Georgia looked lost. And Georgia played Auburn and Ole Miss while we had LSU and Arkansas.
I don't know man. Trying to say you're even with a team that beat you by 28 points because you won the East (which you all claim was down and therefore it didn't really mean anything) just screams dumb to me. Favorable scheduling got you to Atlanta. Same as 2011.
A 28 point victory stands by itself. Georgia looked lost. And Georgia played Auburn and Ole Miss while we had LSU and Arkansas.
I don't know man. Trying to say you're even with a team that beat you by 28 points because you won the East (which you all claim was down and therefore it didn't really mean anything) just screams dumb to me. Favorable scheduling got you to Atlanta. Same as 2011.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:31 pm to WG_Dawg
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But I mean I think that UGA was better in 2012 than SC was in 2012, and I don't think it's a bad thing to say.
Georgia beats Florida
Florida beats South Carolina
South Carolina beats Georgia
Clearly this means that Georgia is superior
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:38 pm to CNB
2012
Off YPG:
UGA- 22nd
SC- 84th
Pypg:
UGA- 30
SC- 57
Rypg:
UGa- 42
SC- 91
PPG:
UGA- 19
sc- 44
Def YPG:
UGA- 32
SC- 12
DPypg:
UGa- 8
SC- 21
DRypg:
UGA- 80
SC- 18
Dppg:
UGA- 18
SC- 13
Looks like UGA had a considerably better O, SC had a much better D. And while your west draw was tougher regular season, we still had to play the best team in teh country which you did not.
I don't know why SC would be so averse to saying that yall were teh much better team when we played each other but we were better in the 2012 season. I think that seems pretty fair.
Off YPG:
UGA- 22nd
SC- 84th
Pypg:
UGA- 30
SC- 57
Rypg:
UGa- 42
SC- 91
PPG:
UGA- 19
sc- 44
Def YPG:
UGA- 32
SC- 12
DPypg:
UGa- 8
SC- 21
DRypg:
UGA- 80
SC- 18
Dppg:
UGA- 18
SC- 13
Looks like UGA had a considerably better O, SC had a much better D. And while your west draw was tougher regular season, we still had to play the best team in teh country which you did not.
I don't know why SC would be so averse to saying that yall were teh much better team when we played each other but we were better in the 2012 season. I think that seems pretty fair.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:39 pm to CNB
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Georgia beats Florida
Florida beats South Carolina
South Carolina beats Georgia
Clearly this means that Georgia is superior
dude...when have I ever claimed the transitive property? I'll tell you when..never, because it's stupid. I'm not the one who even brought up florida.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:40 pm to BHMKyle
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I think its fair to see why Auburn and LSU seem to have the reputation for being the "most lucky." They have both played in the most close conference games, and they have the best winning percentages in such games.
"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:41 pm to bamasgot13
quote:LSU/Miles' teams have been predictable for a while. And it's worked pretty well for Les, he can out muscle and out talent a lot of teams and win a lot of games that way. That's why I'm doubtful that last year's little firing scare will have any effect on him at all.
LSU having the ball late inside the Bama 25 should have resulted in victory, but your O was predictable, your kicker went OOB, and your D got tight and exploited. The champs stayed focused while your coach and your team got tight.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 4:41 pm to WG_Dawg
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I don't know why SC would be so averse to saying that yall were teh much better team when we played each other but we were better in the 2012 season.
Because I don't think y'all were a better team. I don't get why that's so hard for you to believe considering South Carolina beat Georgia by 28 points. If the roles were reversed right now, y'all would be laughing your asses off at me.
It's okay. Teams that don't deserve to go sometimes make it. It happened to us in 2011 too. Mizzou made it twice FFS. Bet y'all wont give them credit. But hey, it is what it is.
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