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Ole Miss comparisons to the USC case...
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:07 pm
I see this a lot. Isn't what happened at USC different than what we already know happened at Ole Miss?
Weren't the benefits at USC paid by agents, and not by USC staffers?
I would think that the NCAA would impose stronger penalties on Ole Miss because their coaching staff and employees are apparently involved in their impermissible benefits.
What recent case compares most closely to what we already know about what happens down in Oxford?
Weren't the benefits at USC paid by agents, and not by USC staffers?
I would think that the NCAA would impose stronger penalties on Ole Miss because their coaching staff and employees are apparently involved in their impermissible benefits.
What recent case compares most closely to what we already know about what happens down in Oxford?
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:09 pm to wmr
It's no different than Bama coaches paying players (alot better comparison). They got nothing. The NCAA isn't even what it was during the USC saga.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:13 pm to wmr
Problem is they can not connect coaching staff to the pay. I think the punishment will be more than ULL but similar. I know about the Memphis booster and it's a not a clear case. Herbert Moore was not a 5 or even 4 stat recruit. Just happened to be in the wrong van on college trips. If you look at what ole miss is charged with there is no pay for play. It's a bunch of hotel rooms and loan rental cars. Could get a bowl ban but Unfortunately it probably will not happen.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:15 pm to wmr
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I would think that the NCAA would impose stronger penalties on Ole Miss because their coaching staff and employees are apparently involved in their impermissible benefits.
Hmmm, you obviously can't read can you? Please reference the allegation in the NOA where Ole Miss staff paid players to play? And don't give me but but but Tunsil said on draft day crap. Right now know one knows what is coming of that.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:19 pm to wmr
Impermissible payments are impermissible payments.
Doesn't matter if it's a coach, booster, or agent.
The only real big deal is if the coach was complicit in the payments, if that's the case Freeze probably won't work again in the P5. OM will end up with 15-2-3.
15 schollies lost.
2 year bowl ban.
3 years probation.
The rest will be all about Coach Freeze.
Doesn't matter if it's a coach, booster, or agent.
The only real big deal is if the coach was complicit in the payments, if that's the case Freeze probably won't work again in the P5. OM will end up with 15-2-3.
15 schollies lost.
2 year bowl ban.
3 years probation.
The rest will be all about Coach Freeze.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:24 pm to wmr
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I would think that the NCAA would impose stronger penalties on Ole Miss because their coaching staff and employees are apparently involved in their impermissible benefits.
I think it's very unlikely that the coaching staff can be connected to direct payments of players. I'm sure we're cheating our asses off, but the NCAA doesn't have enough tangible evidence to punish us as harshly as we deserve. That's how everyone in the program is playing it, anyways. Then again, maybe we get the death penalty
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:24 pm to Rabern57
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alot
Not a word.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:39 pm to Remote Controlled
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Impermissible payments are impermissible payments.
Doesn't matter if it's a coach, booster, or agent.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:41 pm to inelishaitrust
quote:"NCAA dunt need no evdense!" - typical ranter on Ole Miss and NCAA
but the NCAA doesn't have enough tangible evidence to punish us as harshly as we deserve.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:42 pm to inelishaitrust
But but but the NCAA doesn't NEED concrete evidence. They can just know it happens and punish us hardcore.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:46 pm to Rabern57
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It's no different than Bama coaches paying players (alot better comparison). They got nothing. The NCAA isn't even what it was during the USC saga.
You think a Bama coach giving a loan to a player for a couple hundred bucks and having it paid back is a lot better comparison to this Ole Miss case? Is that right?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:48 pm to wmr
USC is a proven commodity for the NCAA
Ole Miss not so
The sanctions place on their program is still being felt
What will happen to the Black Bears
Ole Miss not so
The sanctions place on their program is still being felt
What will happen to the Black Bears
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:52 pm to Tuscaloosa
Ole Miss has embarrassed the NCAA on national TV.
NCAA doesn't have to prove anything. OM is going to miss 2-4 bowl games and lose a lot of scholarships.
NCAA doesn't have to prove anything. OM is going to miss 2-4 bowl games and lose a lot of scholarships.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:40 am to inelishaitrust
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I think it's very unlikely that the coaching staff can be connected to direct payments of players. I'm sure we're cheating our asses off, but the NCAA doesn't have enough tangible evidence to punish us as harshly as we deserve.
They have direct communication
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:51 am to StopRobot
Between who and regarding what?
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:55 am to StopRobot
From the SI article:
And on top of that, everything that they did have from Miller was already included in our response. Nothing new.
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Miller says he told the NCAA those nights were arranged by boosters he met through Kiffin, but the NCAA never found that link. Kiffin's name appears 13 times in the Notice of Allegations, but none of those prove he set Miller up with boosters.
And on top of that, everything that they did have from Miller was already included in our response. Nothing new.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 8:58 am
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