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Don't blame Ole Miss for circling the wagons...blame the NCAA
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:51 am
Every time a major program has tried to work with the NCAA and come clean during an investigation, they've gotten hammered. Time and again the NCAA has thanked the compliance department, praised their efforts...and then crushed the program. The NCAA is the most ineffective and arbitrary enforcement organization ever known. So when a school like Ole Miss sees what has happened to other programs like Alabama and USC, where rules WERE broken but the compliance office tried to be transparent, you can't blame Ole Miss for learning the clear lesson: when the NCAA comes investigating, you let them do their work and don't give them any help.
Programs that have gotten nailed in the past have frequently had good arguments for why the penalties and/or the process wasn't fair. But let's face it - nobody is interested when the guilty is overpunished. Most people just consider it whining if a rule breaker doesn't get due process or penalties appropriate to the violations. So you just have to suck it up and take whatever the NCAA wants to hand out.
In this atmosphere, you may as well just brace yourself and don't give them any help, because that approach doesn't make it any better.
Programs that have gotten nailed in the past have frequently had good arguments for why the penalties and/or the process wasn't fair. But let's face it - nobody is interested when the guilty is overpunished. Most people just consider it whining if a rule breaker doesn't get due process or penalties appropriate to the violations. So you just have to suck it up and take whatever the NCAA wants to hand out.
In this atmosphere, you may as well just brace yourself and don't give them any help, because that approach doesn't make it any better.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:55 am to Crimson Legend
True story. Louisville's President Ramsey tried to force a heavy hand on self-imposed penalties with a post-season ban in the middle of a season and other reductions and it got him this in the middle of downtown Louisville:
When it boils down to it, the people knows what's up.
When it boils down to it, the people knows what's up.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:06 pm to Crimson Legend
Listen to the OP. He is an Alabama fan. They know how to avoid NCAA punishment over there.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:39 pm to AuburnTigers
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Listen to the OP. He is an Alabama fan. They know how to avoid NCAA punishment over there.
Listening to me would be the first wise thing you've ever done on the rant.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:54 pm to AuburnTigers
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Listen to the OP. He is an Alabama fan. They know how to avoid NCAA punishment over there.
Quite ironic coming from a fan of the Fambly
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:59 pm to AuburnTigers
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Listen to the OP. He is an Alabama fan. They know how to avoid NCAA punishment over there.
Alabama cooperated during the Means investigation and got slammed. They cooperated during the textbook thing and got slammed. When has Bama averted sanctions for any serious rules infractions that have any kind of hard evidence substantiating them?
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:08 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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Alabama cooperated during the Means investigation and got slammed. They cooperated during the textbook thing and got slammed. When has Bama averted sanctions for any serious
you have selective memory. Bama stonewalled the hell out of its investigation and pissed the hell out of the NCAA.
you are not entitled to your own "facts"
Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:11 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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Alabama cooperated during the Means investigation and got slammed.
when a high school coach is paid a quarter of a million dollars for a kid's signature, being cooperative isn't going to get you a slap on the wrist.
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They cooperated during the textbook thing and got slammed
outside of vacating wins (the most pointless penalty), what else did the football team really suffer? They were on probation, but I wouldn't say they got hammered. Just because you're transparent doesn't mean you'll also avoid any penalty for wrongdoing. It does, generally, lessen the load, unless it's over the top like Albert Means
Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:18 pm to Crimson Legend
Or you could just stop cheating at football like Auburn has for the last twenty years.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:23 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Bama wanted to come clean and work with the NCAA so badly that they even asked Fulmer to come testify.
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