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re: Alabama folks: Tell me about Judy Bonner

Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:28 pm to
We know Cajun doesn't have a dog in this hunt. He has only walked the sidewalks of Tuscaloosa and is too stupid to reproduce. Keep arguing with the LSU fans on what constitutes indecent exposure, that is one subject you would know about.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:32 pm to



Triggered.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36632 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:41 pm to
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It's empirically demonstrable that Alabama is both a better school and a harder school to get into than LSU.



. I'm sure no one outside of Alabama gives a shite.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 10:42 pm
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3200 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:18 pm to
It's funny that you keep accusing other people of only caring about football because it's very clear that your extreme butthurt about Alabama football has blinded you with a severe case of delusional confirmation bias. You're so far gone, you can't even tell which way is up anymore. You see a trend, and by god, it all supports this vast conspiracy of good ol' boy mismanagement you've always fantasized about. It's crazy how that happens, huh?
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No, but for instate tuition to increase 30 fold over a 25 year period is criminal.

You act like the increase in tuition has anything to do with this fantasy you have about mismanagement. The increase in college tuition during this time is indeed a problem, but it hardly has anything to do with your little obsession with the alabama board of trustees. Let's take a look at the facts shall we.

Alabama:


National Average:


It's almost like the graphs follow the same trajectory and that the increase in our state is just symptomatic of larger issues resulting in the same pattern across the country. But no, I'm sure that's too straight forward of an answer for you. It must be a conspiracy.

You also ignore the improvements in resources and prestige that has coincided with this growth at UA you're so resentful of, but that's another story. I'm sure you have your reasons. Roll damn Tide, Paul.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:40 pm to
You are great at giving the company line as to why education has increased in the state. When the schools were at a manageable size, they were considered some of the best educational bargains in the country. But nobody wants to explain what the large increase in tuition was caused by. Someone has to pay for the new housing, the new academic buildings, the great student activity buildings and the rest of infrastructure. Could the school keep its head above water with 35k instate students? Why should the taxpayer pay to educate and build housing for students that will leave forever after graduation. It is a problem at all the state school, it is just more prevalent at UA. Problem solved if we had a lotto, but that is not going to happen.
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 12:05 am
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:01 am to
I worked for her at UA, she is a great person and highly respected.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:05 am to
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She was an stop gap hire because they ran the previous guy out after a short period. Witt thought he could control her as his puppet, when she resisted she was shown the door. Some feel Witt is selling out the School for the sake of growth, she had other ideas on the future of the school.



Look - we get your views on Alabama and their future plans. That's fine. Please don't start trying to tell us how Alabama people feel about those plans and the future.

You are welcome to your jaded opinion, but don't project it on our alumni base.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:09 am to
quote:

I worked for her at UA, she is a great person and highly respected.


Everyone that I knew that dealt with her regularly thought she was a very genuine person and was excellent at her prior posts.
Posted by GIbson05
Member since Feb 2009
4292 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:21 am to
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Someone has to pay for the new housing, the new academic buildings, the great student activity buildings and the rest of infrastructure.

No one is forcing anyone to go to UA. If you don't like the tuition don't fricking go. There's 30+ schools you can get a four-year degree from in Alabama. If you don't want to pay the extra for a nice school go else where.

But there are thousands of people going to Alabama because it is the nicest University in the state and thousands of kids coming from out of state,and paying 4x what in state kids pay, because they want to go to a better school.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:36 am to
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Why should the taxpayer pay to educate and build housing for students that will leave forever after graduation.


The taxpayers in Alabama don't pay. UA enrolls more in-state students than any school in the state. They pay for educating them by pulling in scholarship eligible students from out of state.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:37 am to
Iron Puppet does speak some truth. I have a family member in college and when she was making her decision,she had full ride offers from several schools including Alabama. On her visit to Alabama, she didn't feel wanted there, and both her and her parents said the folks they dealt with acted more interested in the 2 out of state candidates also on the visit. Her Dada is a Bama alum and left with a very bad taste in his mouth from the visit. He's talked to a few other parents that experienced the same thing. Alabama has put a higher emphasis on recruiting out Of state kids to the detriment of in state kids.

He also said Auburn treated them like royalty. She ended up going to neither school though and is happy at Bham Southern.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:42 am to
Well she started out as a home ec teacher then worked her way up
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:48 am to
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So if you do not qualify for a scholarship, you do not have a right to a higher education ? Or is UA given it out like candy ? Did you go to school on a full scholarship ? How many families do you know can afford to go in debt $100K per child to go to school.

Unless they changed it in the last 10 years, it's not that hard to get a scholarship to Alabama. Hell, I got a 28 or 29 on the ACT and got half tuition from the University and the college of engineering matched that.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:52 am to
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Could the school keep its head above water with 35k instate students?

Do 35k instate students deserve to go there when you also have to account for students going to the other instate universities as well?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 9:04 am to
In-State Students Fall 2015
Alabama - 17,066
Auburn - 16,197


It's funny to hear Auburn people so anti-out of state students. For years Auburn heavily promoted itself as the non-UGA option for Atlanta kids, even going as far as giving kids from Georgia in-state tuition at Auburn.



This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 9:06 am
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 5/20/16 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Could the school keep its head above water with 35k instate students?

Do 35k instate students deserve to go there when you also have to account for students going to the other instate universities as well?



A majority of the students at UA have come from out-of-state.
It is 51% oos and 49% from in Alabama
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15436 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 9:09 am to
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But the taxpayers will continue to pay for the buildings and roads on campus, like they have for generations. Only now those buildings are being use to educate kids from NY, TX and other states, while they struggle to send their kids to CC.


What percentage of a student body should be in state?
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12711 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 9:10 am to
Why doesn't the state of Alabama have a state LOTTO and put the money into education.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 9:13 am to
quote:

A majority of the students at UA have come from out-of-state.
It is 51% oos and 49% from in Alabama

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